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Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to that creature this turn by colorless sources.
Lithomancer's Focus Discussion
2 months ago
ZendikariWol Hey thanks for all that! WOW, so to start off thanks for the spellcheck. I did that part in a rush and haven’t been able to put all my attention into setting this deck up here yet. They’re fixed now!
Now for the suggestions: I don’t see how Cathar's Companion is strictly worse than Seeker of the Way only because they’re doing different things off of casting the non-creature spell. With the companion I like the idea of making it indestructible to add extra protection against board wipes. Though I will agree to see that it isn’t very game-changing. It’s just a measly 3/1 for 3. I’m not stuck to keeping it, but maybe you can convince me to take it out! This deck is mostly jank anyway.
Flamewright and Assemble the Legion are in mainly to interact with the Path to Exile combo where I can target my own creatures while Feather is out and ramp every turn. Or use Swords to Plowshares to gain 1 life a turn lol. That one is a weak trade-off but Path is excellent, especially for ramp in Boros. If you have better synergistic ideas for me to utilize Path I’m all ears!
I will definitely be taking out Radiate for Zada, Hedron Grinder though. That is a fantastic point. As well as I expect to replace Dual Shot , Lithomancer's Focus , and Kindled Fury once I come across better cards. Same with Onward / Victory and Orim's Touch .
Oh and unless I’m reading it wrong Shower of Coals is 6 damage for 5, or with threshold, 12 damage for 5–which probably still isnt the best but I’ll see how it runs for a while.
I’m going to check out your deck now to see what I should be running in place of some of the weaker jank I’m playing. I’m always down to hear more suggestions if you have them!
2 months ago
You have a couple spelling errors in the description. Hate to be that guy, but I feel it's better you know, ya know?
"shuold" -paragraph 1, there's a properly-spelled "should" in there too, but trust me I'm not just playing gotcha!.
"not" -paragraph 7, I'm assuming you meant "now"?
Anyhow, down to the actual deck. You have a couple bulk cards I'm honestly a little perplexed by the inclusion of.
Flamewright , while a fun card, doesn't have any synergy with the deck.
Shower of Coals is just not a good card. 4 damage for 5 mana? I know it's repeatable but it's really not great. I have a pretty hefty removal package and Imma be linking my deck below, if you'd like to look.
Pump spells that probably have better alternatives include Astral Steel (unless you're planning to have 5+ mana up), Captain's Maneuver (though a ton of fun, how often do you actually cast it?), Dual Shot (very weak), Enrage (also overcosted- love the flavor text tho), Kindled Fury (not bad, but there are better out there that do the same thing), Lithomancer's Focus (usually just a worse Brute Force ), Onward / Victory (you can never cast the good half if Feather's out), Orim's Touch (there are just a lot of better protection spells), Radiate (worse version of Zada, Hedron Grinder or Mirrorwing Dragon ), Spark Jolt (scry 1 for 1 every turn is decent, but better alternatives, bla, bla, bla), Sure Strike (worse Invigorated Rampage ), Surge of Zeal (usually worse than Expedite , right?), Tandem Tactics (good, not great tho).
Sorry I kinda gave you a LOT of stuff. This is about what my Feather brew would be if I made it in real life. Fortunately I use tappedout to build my ideal deck and make sure I don't waste all my money on "ooh that's really good, I'll use it sometime" cards. Feel free to yoink some ideas from my brew!
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2 years ago
I am actually thinking that the copter might be replaced by Metallic Mimic, Selfless Spirit, or Aethersphere Harvester. With Spirit and Mimic, I can keep the card slot at 2 cmc and have either a strong utility flier or another human synergy card that causes Hanweir Garrison and Thalia's Lieutenant to be even stronger (misread mimic, he does place counters even if they don't start with one). The Harvester is a nice new vehicle I am considering because it brings enough energy to power its lifelink for 2 turns, has good stats, and (like copter) has a crew requirement of only 1. I am currently leaning towards the mimic because the cost($) of card will be cheaper and fits the human theme well, but I think the spirit will benefit the deck more. Still more to consider before I make the final decision.
Sorry Kataclysm about the misread and turn down of mimic at first. Now that I have read him properly I see him as a good options for the deck. As for the Thalia suggestion, I have been trying to get her for a while but the stores I go to have been sold out of her for months. I would like 2 copies for the side or even possible to get in the main.
Currently looking at the side and thinking I need to make some serious tweaks to get ready for ceratin decks and combos. Currently the deck has no answer for the Saheeli Rai/Felidar Guardian combo and I know the people at my shop are already jumping on the idea of using this trick. My plans for countering it will be Thalia, Shock, and Authority of the Consuls. Thalia and consuls stop it the combo in the same way by tapping the creatures as they enter denying them an attack. Consuls takes it a step further by making sure they don't use an untap card and still kill me, because I will gain 1 life for each creature they bring in. The card shock can interrupt the combo as they start it to kill Saheeli as she activates to spawn the first token. These cards being brought into deck still need some time to decide what might make it to main deck or which card to replace in the side. Cards on the potential cut list are Lithomancer's Focus, Repel the Abominable, Skywhaler's Shot.
Feel free to let me know what you think about these ideas. All comments and suggestion are welcomed. Actual deck changes to main deck coming next week since we have one more FNM to enjoy our copters. Kinda glad to see them go but sad since I just got the number I liked in deck.
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It may help a bit, but the decision is yours. But, one thing about weenie decks is they need to be fast and get big. I have both a commander and a standard deck that are human tribal weenies. Odric and the Lunarch Inquisition and Allies Against All, humans have a great lord in standard right now. And I can easily get all my humans to be 5/5s late game in both decks. Therefore, Stone Haven Outfitter will be doing a lot of work in this deck with equipment. But it may not be enough...
Looking back at the board now, it may be worth considering switching Lithomancer's Focus for Strength of Arms. Instant speed pump and tokens are nice. And it seems you would be able to have enough tokens on the field to make due with Collective Effort
2 years ago
Just a reminder that Titan's Strength is rotating out with Origins. Like the deck idea otherwise. Lithomancer's Focus is a potential replacement that is decent pump and is good vs Eldrazi and artifacts creatures.
2 years ago
So I (finally) pulled together a list of cards that play well with Zada and Mirrorwing.
Some are extremely niche (e.g., I can't think of any reason to use the Pingers, except with Silverfur Partisan), but I found a bunch of gems I had never even thought of before, like ...
- Dazzling Reflection: Life-gain? Who knew?
- Die Young: Energy counters!
- Lithomancer's Focus: Superb against Eldrazi and Vehicle bombs
- Saheeli's Artistry: Mode 2 = Wow!
- Strength of Arms: Go wide with 1/1 Human Soldiers
Please let me know of any I missed!
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