Creature — Cat Wizard
Tap: Target creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
Whenever you play a spell, you may untap Leonin Battlemage.
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Leonin Battlemage Discussion
11 months ago
Thanks, that's what I'm going for, kind of. Right now though I have Archangel of Thune + Spike Feeder which does a similar task with only 2 cards (no cats SpikeFeeder + Sunbond could do it too). I'm trying to find a combo that wins (with "some" cat components similar to what you mentioned), but having infinite life in commander often doesn't matter. Need an enabler like an Aetherflux Reservoir or Felidar Sovereign though to make it useful. Or some way to spend life for mana?
Something like Cryptolith Rite + Leonin Battlemage + Oketra's Monument + Whitemane Lion | Infinite 1/1 Warrior Tokens (without haste yuck!). Something that can win but much less janky and not so many pieces. Some way to output a win directly.
2 years ago
Are any of the degenerate combos cat tribal specific. I'm trying to find some cat-centric combos for my Arahbo, Xenagos... for Cats EDH Deck but haven't found anything good yet.
All I've been able to come-up with so far, but are really janky are:
Temur Sabertooth + Karametra's Acolyte + Swiftfoot Boots + 4 Devotion | Infinite ETB + Aura Shards or Qasali Slingers Destroy All Artifacts and Enchantments or + 1 Devotion Infinite Mana. No clue what I would do with this mana even if I made it.
Cryptolith Rite + Leonin Battlemage + Oketra's Monument + Whitemane Lion | Infinite 1/1 Warrior Tokens. Who doesn't love 4-card combos that involve 2 cats to make 1/1 warriors that don't even have haste. On the plus side Oketra's Monument looks cat-ish.
Aluren + Fleetfoot Panther or Whitemane Lion | Infinite ETB + Aura Shards or Qasali Slingers Destroy All Artifacts and Enchantments or Healer of the Pride Infinite Life. Aluren terrifies me, none of the cats are ultimately good on their own either.
Changeling Hero + Changeling Titan | Infinite ETB + Aura Shards or Qasali Slingers Destroy All Artifacts and Enchantments or Healer of the Pride Infinite Life. They may not look like cats but they are... I guess.
Leonin Relic-Warder + Oblivion Ring or Journey to Nowhere + Sun Titan or Karmic Guide or Reveillark + Greater Good | Infinite ETB + Aura Shards or Qasali Slingers Destroy All Artifacts and Enchantments or Healer of the Pride Infinite Life. Soon as you say Sun Titan or Karmic Guide or Reveillark which is Saffi Eriksdotter so why would I waste time with Cats.
If you have anything please let me know!
Whats your Tooth and Nail combo, any cats?
Any help very much appreciated.
2 years ago
Posting this Cats that don't suck list to research later, as MegaMatt13 commented, Pride Sovereign is a little weak, plus I find that 24 cats is a little short, although I've won games without playing a cat Stonehewer Giant + Puresteel Paladin + Grafted Exoskeleton.
I excluded many aggro cats because I feel that's not the right way to win in a multi-player format.
I'm sure I've missed some cats. I also have added some cats that do suck, but evaluating combos with them.
Adorned Pouncer, Ajani's Pridemate, Ajani's Sunstriker, Felidar Cub, Fleecemane Lion, Hungry Lynx, Initiate's Companion, Leonin Arbiter, Leonin Relic-Warder, Leonin Shikari, Lost Leonin, Metallic Mimic, Qasali Pridemage, Scrounging Bandar, Sunspear Shikari, Whitemane Lion
Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Fleetfoot Panther, Kemba, Kha Regent, Mirri, Cat Warrior, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist, Mirror Entity, Pride Sovereign, Prowling Serpopard, Qasali Ambusher, Skyhunter Skirmisher, Stalking Leonin
Please recommend any cats i've missed!
2 years ago
It would seem great minds think alike! Nice deck name you have there. ;D
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 12 | 1652 VIEWS | IN 7 FOLDERS
For real, I do have quite a few things I'd like to suggest quite a few things that should hopefully help you out!
The first item I'd like to point out are a handful of outclassed cards. Sylvan Reclamation in GW is for all intents and purposes strictly better than Relic Crush. Subbing one generic mana for one white mana for both exile AND the option to cycle? Count me in! Dreamstone Hedron does provide two colorless mana, but I feel Mind Stone being potentially dropped earlier makes that a more worthwhile option to me. Grappling Hook is nice when you can force your opponent to block how you like, but if you're going for the double strike option I believe there are better options that can come out earlier and work better to your advantage. Fireshrieker is a cheaper double strike equipment, and Duelist's Heritage can boost your opponents' creatures on turns where they are not so inclined to be attacking you to make your opponents finish each other off more quickly!
One thing worth pointing out is that Mirri isn't dependent on cats. While there are plenty of cats and cat-based cards that work well with Mirri, don't be afraid to tip your toes outside of the tribal focus a little bit here. Oketra's Monument is a good example of a card that can boost your strategies with non-Cat creatures. Other cards that work well would be Martial Coup, Secure the Wastes, and Elspeth, Sun's Champion. While a little costly on the mana side of things, Hornet Queen provides great flying defense that this deck typically lacks. These token producers would also allow you to take greater advantage of Skullclamp (or Mentor of the Meek if you choose to add it as well) for some nice card draw.
While Hornet Queen is fresh on the mind, I'd like to point out Sandwurm Convergence as another great defense against flying decks.
Tribal vs non-tribal aside, let's talk about how to tap Mirri outside of combat. You'll want to get her tapped every turn you have her out, but sometimes swinging away just isn't a viable option. Cards like Cryptolith Rite and Glare of Subdual allow you to get plenty of non-combat utility out of Mirri as you enable her. Don't forget lands that tap your creatures, including Survivors' Encampment. Cards with Convoke can also be beneficial, especially with all the token generators you have. Chord of Calling and Obelisk of Urd are probably the two best for your deck.
Fun fact, if you're looking for a cheap and on-theme infinite combo. Combine Cryptolith Rite, Oketra's Monument, Whitemane Lion, and Leonin Battlemage for an infinite number of tokens and an infinitely large creature!
In regards to your manabase, I have two concerns: I believe there are too many ETB tapped lands, and you don't have enough ramp.
For the ramp side, you should look to squeeze in Selesnya Signet and Talisman of Unity - they are great to drop early, and allow you to drop Mirri as early as turn 2! Getting some redundancy in your deck with Kodama's Reach wouldn't be too remiss of you either... wouldn't you want to double your chances of drawing into Cultivate early?
For the lands, the only ones you're running that enter tapped that I'm a fan of are Path of Ancestry and Selesnya Sanctuary. While the other provide solid fixing, being set back a turn on mana when you should be aiming to generate as much as possible to get your token production up can really slow you down. More basics, and cheap duals like Sunpetal Grove, Fortified Village, Canopy Vista, and Temple of Plenty that either enter untapped under the right conditions, or at least provide some extra utility, I believe would be preferential. To put it in perspective, would you rather gain 1 life, or scry 1? Would you rather have a guildgate, or Scattered Groves that does the same thing, but can be cycled AND more easily fetched?
In addition to that fixing, more utility lands would also be worthwhile for you. Hashep Oasis and more relevantly Shefet Dunes provide mana for you while also giving you the option of pumping your creatures. I personally run other cards in my own Arahbo deck like Homeward Path and Scavenger Grounds as well, but you could tailor those to your personal meta.
I'd also like to discuss putting some redundancy in your deck.
When it comes to your commander, Mirri is nice since she locks down combat, but there are other options here that can perform similar roles! Crawlspace provides a similar protection effect, although it allows two creatures attacking and not one. Citadel Siege allows you tap one of your opponents' creatures each turn, so they can only ever attack you with their second best option! On the offensive side, Krosan Vorine is another cat(!!!) that with provoke forces your opponent into bad blocks. Likewise, Odric, Master Tactician provides similar combat control.
I notice you have a pretty heavy equipment focus, but with the amount of token generation that Mirri benefits from, more anthem-esque effects like Mirari's Wake and Marshal's Anthem would be appreciated. Two that I can think of off the bat would be Spear of Heliod and Bow of Nylea. Both provide excellent utility outside of their offensive boosts. If you have Mirri and the Spear out, 3 open mana means your opponent KNOWS that their creature can die that turn. Likewise, the Bow makes blocks even tougher even WITHOUT Mirri, not to mention it's such a Swiss Army Knife otherwise!
The last thing I'd like to cover are you win conditions. Going wide with your tokens is critical to your strategy, so let's find a way to take maximum advantage of that. Throne of the God-Pharaoh and Jazal Goldmane stand out to me as some of your best finishers, but we can add more. If you have the budget for it, Craterhoof Behemoth is one of the best token finishers out there, but if you're looking for a cheaper option (albeit slightly weaker), Decimator of the Provinces provides a similar Overrun effect on a body. I'm a big fan of infect, so Triumph of the Hordes is something I would include in my own Mirri deck, as it's such an efficient blowout card. I can understand if you're not keen on infect, though. Finally, True Conviction can quickly turn games around when you'd otherwise be down and out thanks to the massive lifegain it provides, not to mention board-wide double strike often being enough to end games.
I know I went on and on here, but I do help this was of help to you! Please, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
2 years ago
Couple asks and questions,
13 lands enter tapped, 3 lands produce no color, 2 lands often (1 more than, 1 less than) enter tapped, of 36 lands. So 13+3+2=18 / 36 = 50%. Don't you find that VERY slow?
The infinite combo is 4 cards (yikes), it must be hard to come by even with draw? Have you thought about tutoring it? Enlightened Tutor/Idyllic Tutor for Oketra's Monument/Cryptolith Rite and Sylvan Tutor/Worldly Tutor/Eladamri's Call for Leonin Battlemage/Whitemane Lion. Also Herald’s Horn doesn't do anything unless you have someone else with an ETB tiggered ability looks like?
Dromoka's Command is modular, but do you find it's under-powered on most modes? Do you find Glare of Subdual a bad conversion? Losing an attacker/blocker for 1 tap? Nissa, Vital Force doesn't seem to have the right Synergy with what the cats are doing? Do you find more utility in the Vorrac Battlehorns for the lower cost than Behemoth Sledge with the lifelink but with no Felidar Sovereign I get it?
You seem to be token pumping / creating, why no Brimaz, King of Oreskos?