Kuon, Ogre Ascendant

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Kuon, Ogre Ascendant

Legendary Creature — Ogre Monk

At the beginning of the end step, if three or more creatures were put into graveyards from the battlefield this turn, flip Kuon, Ogre Ascendant.


Kuon's Essence

Legendary Enchantment

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player sacrifices a creature.

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mistergreen527 on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List] Part 1

2 years ago

I believe your list is missing a few cards: Marrow-Gnawer , Kuon, Ogre Ascendant  Flip, Laelia, the Blade Reforged , and Valentin, Dean of the Vein  Flip.

It would also be cool to see the Walking Dead cards placed on your tier list.

harbingerofduh on Snackrifice

4 years ago

Don't forget that you have a second infinite-mana combo here with Endless Cockroaches and Phyrexian Altar. Cast Cockroaches with Endrek on the battlefield; sacrifice the Thrulls and the Cockroaches for 4 black mana; recast Cockroaches for a net gain of B every time.

Suggestions:

  • You're really light on lands. I have to think that you mulligan a ton or struggle to hit the 5 mana you need for Endrek. I'd highly recommend at least three to four more lands, and definitely more mana rocks to ensure that Endrek hits the battlefield fast enough for your combos to kick in.

  • You really want Blasting Station in this deck. When Endrek dumps a handful of Thrulls on the board, each one will create a trigger for the Station's untap ability. Then you respond to each individual trigger by sacrificing a Thrull. This combo turns every batch of Thrulls into a batch of damage, and if you have one of your Phyrexian Altar loops going, it becomes a table-killing combo of infinite damage.

  • You can do way better than Defiant Salvager and Ravenous Harpy. Tar Fiend can devour all the Thrulls it creates in one swoop, becoming a 16/16 and emptying an opponent's hand. Priest of Forgotten Gods is a value machine. Cards like Plaguecrafter and Fleshbag Marauder come down early, help control the board, and are really fun to recur. (Fleshbag Marauder even helps make your Gravecrawler more consistent.)

  • Dross Harvester can basically ensure that you can't be killed by anything except decking or commander damage.

  • Kuon, Ogre Ascendant is almost strictly better than Magus of the Abyss in this deck. Flipping Kuon into his enchantment form is child's play for Endrek, and as an enchantment, Kuon is far less vulnerable than a 0/3 creature that kills itself if you play it into an empty board.

If you're looking for other ideas, I have my own Endrek deck that does pretty similar things to yours: The Bloodthirsty Endrek Sahr

mlequesne on

5 years ago

Hi bro! love the deck, I have some suggestions =) I know it's a creature but Mindslicer fits really well in here. Also Bottomless Pit looks nice. I've seen other creatureless decks with Kuon, Ogre Ascendant as commander which seems really annoying. see you bro =)

ShreddedByCrows on Black Devotion

5 years ago

lance4224130 Hey, as we are playing exactly the same colours EDH decks, I had to come here too!

I started EDH with a Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief deck (which is on my page if you want to have a look, it may give you some ideas).

As experienced, I don't really like Magus of the Coffers. Even if you got the boots to directly equip him (and you don't play them, which is understandable with Erebos as commander), it's really slow. If you're looking for a card with a similar effect, you could put in a Doubling Cube (a bit greedy though, but I love this card), an Extraplanar Lens (play snow-covered swamps if you go for it, so your opponents won't get any benefits) or Jet Medallion.

Consuming Vapors feels badly slow and only affect one dude. Even if it has rebound, I won't play it. I play Choice of Damnations in my Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck because I have the ability to down everyone life totals quite quickly... in a hard control deck as this one, I think it's just not good enough. Your opponents will often choose to lose something like 9-10 life points on the best cases, and you will spend all your mana in a useless card. Same reaction for Consume Spirit, Soul Burn and Drain Life. Except maybe in some greedy Jeleva decklists, Curse of the Cabal seems like a bad card for EDH.

If you want to play devotion, Phyrexian Obliterator and Necropotence are staples. Erebos's Titan is not bad either (and flavorful). Dread Shade at leat deserves some testing playtime. Even if it's not your initial strategy, Grave Titan is huge and ugly - so it's definitely everything you like in his kind of deck. Kokusho, the Evening Star is a great tread to take advantage on your opponents.

If you want to stay on a more ''creatureless'' devotion version, you could try out Kuon, Ogre Ascendant which is hard to flip, but pretty damn effective.

All Is Dust makes out as a great board-clear, but you should keep in mind it also forces you to sacrifice your enchantments. Phyrexian Scriptures are nice in synergy with The Abyss, but it's quite a slow card. Massacre Wurm is a nice card to control the board (hum... to destroy every token deck), healing you and giving you a strong body on the battlefield.

Grim Tutor and Increasing Ambition are another good tutor options.

Bitterblossom with Contamination and/or Attrition is op - Bloodghast / Ophiomancer serve the same purposes, and you will also love to add Skullclamp if you go for it, having access to a nice sac outlet is what makes monoB that strong in my opinion (also with cards like Ashnod's Altar, Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos (flavorful!) etc.).

Painful Quandary is an insanly powerful card in Control decks. For other cruel cards as this one, you have Lethal Vapors, Oppression, Death Cloud or Capital Punishment.

Waste Not could fit if you add some mass discards effects (like Bottomless Pit (not the best example as you also discard AT RANDOM, meh...), Vindictive Lich, etc.).

You have the Lich's Mastery which seems funny.

I certainly forgot a lot of cards, but I'll let you know if something else come to my mind. Have great fun building it up!

TheDeckMaker2300 on List of Interesting cards some may have forgotten

5 years ago

Alright lets see if we can resurrect this

Reverence IN YOUR FACE Rhys the Redeemed AND Krenko, Mob Boss!!! >:)

Kuon, Ogre Ascendant flip it then congratulations you just got a budget version of The Abyss to the field

Thoughts of Ruin ados lands

Defensive Formation you get to puppet how damage gets threw asign all 12 of ghaltas damage to a pathetic 1/1 which is also being blocked by a deathtouch creature

Purify destory all artifacts and enchantments for 5 count me in

Planar Void do you reconize the effect?... anwser is Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void the void is $27 rest in peace is $4 (as of masters 25) but whats the price of planar void...28........CENTS WHY IS IT ONLY $0.28 BESIDES THE FACT IT HITS EVERYBODY!!

Outmaneuver here let me give my dudes or your dudes super trample for the attack

Harmonic Convergence enchantments to top which is hate love it

you think Reflect Damage is the only option for this think again we also have Mirror Strike which is one mana less by the way and a creature that does this magic trick its name is Glarecaster ability actiavtion is exspensive but did you notice the part its like shooting everything with redirect damage

Death Match token and creatures 3 toughness or lower hate coming at ya

Debt of Loyalty i will save your creature from being put into the graveyard.....too bad i get to steal it right after

Teferi's Veil unearth and i have to exil...oh wait they don't exist so the exile clause doesn't work and i get to keep my stuff lol

AEther Flash i promise this is underplayed not even the dinosaur tribal decks are using it that much

Tranquil Grove a infinite use enchantment nuke wonderful

AEther Barrier NOW WHAT DO YOU GOT TO SAY FOR YOURSELF ANIMAR!!! >:P

Sudden Death nice try breya

Yixlid Jailer goodbye graveyard evil

Llanowar Mentor Llanowar Elves factory coming right up

to be continued......

Razulghul on Transform Commander!

6 years ago

Mardu_Maniac awesome! I'm going to be brewing a Kuon, Ogre Ascendant deck before taking on liliana again but it will be almost the same list absent a few things(mostly discard). If you need help with your list shoot me your list!

Razulghul on Honey, why is there a pot roast inside the candle?

6 years ago

Hi there, I was wondering if you have considered just a few stax cards since you will most likely have enough tokens to offset their effects? The cards I'm mostly thinking of are Smokestack, Small Pox and maybe even Descent into Madness? deathcloud and Pox might be too much though.

Other cards I'd recommend are removal such as Innocent Blood, Barter in Blood and possibly even Kuon, Ogre Ascendant though he's rough at BBB cost.

Cloudstone Curio is a great value engine and Cryptic Gateway could be pretty awesome too. Anyways hope it helps!

MediSyntax on

6 years ago

Hard to say, it is a very tight list.
A card I have no experience with is Kuon, Ogre Ascendant. Does it pull its weight?
Otherwise I would suggest cutting Dark Prophecy. They really fulfill the same the deck and the Grimoire not only pairs beautifully with Words of Waste but also is a may effect and so will not bite you in the ass.

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