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Ior Ruin Expedition
Landfall Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a quest counter on Ior Ruin Expedition.
Remove three quest counters from Ior Ruin Expedition and sacrifice it: Draw two cards.
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Ior Ruin Expedition Discussion
6 months ago
Thwartheb je gelijk in, maar je kan meestal genoeg recuren
Vanmiddag bedacht ik me orecies hetzelfde met Song of the Dryads dus die gaan vervangen worden
Ior Ruin Expedition is inderdaad niet heel denderend maar voorde early game start wel prima, maar als ik er zo over nadenk is ramp op die plek dan beter
En Storm Cauldron staat er maar 1x in. Misschien omdat hij meerdere tags heeft? Maar dat hebben wel meerdere.
Thnx voor het meedenken!
6 months ago
Hou er rekening mee dat Thwart enzo islands nodig hebben en op dit moment heb je slechts 13 islands in je deck.
Ior Ruin Expedition is een klein effect, zou hem niet aanraden.
Enter the Unknown is een klein effect die ik wel aan zou raden, card advantage EN een land drop voor één mana. Sowieso is Explore wel goed in je deck.
Roil Elemental is Boehhhhhh
Storm Cauldron staat twee keer tussen je deck.
Voor de rest ben ik even inspiratieloos.
2 years ago
You pay two, return one of the tapped lands, untap the other tapped land used to pay the cost - repeat with retreat... with an active growth chamber it may make infinite mana?
You lose the infinite tokens, but could help with combo consistency (10 options) if a Cloudstone or Meloku isn't drawn (6 options). Though the only piece i would remove is Long-Term Plans. Ior Ruin Expedition can be added if you have your combo but haven't drawn a win con?
2 years ago
Ior Ruin Expedition makes you draw not really efficient. im not sure but you could load up on cantrips like Quicken or cards with draw effects like Sphinx's Revelation and let Jace's Erasure and Sphinx's Tutelage do work.
2 years ago
@lazarusdraigon- nice combo. The issue I'm having at this point, is I have so much of the deck relying on the crabs I don't want to make it too dependent on them so the deck doesn't function properly.
Any ideas for some continuous draw, so I can work on the draw mill?
How about Ior Ruin Expedition?
2 years ago
You are still missing Expedition Raptor Expedition Envoy Khalni Heart Expedition Soul Stair Expedition Ior Ruin Expedition. These cards would really help against all MUD decks and all board wipes. Some good sideboard options against the reanimator meta would be Zektar Shrine Expedition Expedition Map Nissa's Expedition and Sunspring Expedition
2 years ago
I think you meant expeditions, not exeditions. I love the way this deck will play against eldrazi, and I also love the sideboard options against affinity and burn. Man, this deck has potential! May I reccomend Expedition Raptor Expedition Envoy Khalni Heart Expedition Soul Stair Expedition Ior Ruin Expedition Zektar Shrine Expedition Expedition Map Nissa's Expedition Sunspring Expedition Mystic Gate Wasteland Cascade Bluffs Ancient Tomb Dust Bowl Eye of Ugin Fetid Heath Fire-Lit Thicket Flooded Grove Forbidden Orchard Graven Cairns Horizon Canopy Kor Haven Mana Confluence Rugged Prairie Strip Mine Wooded Bastion and there may be MORE!!!
3 years ago
You asked for a thorough review, well... You've been warned.
First and foremost, this deck is poor. It's functionality is heavily redundant. There are cards that will do something that you don't need or are just not that good of a card.
Your aim of the deck is to kill with general damage. There are two things needed to do this.
- Have the general's attack be a high number to deal fast damage.
- Make sure the general cannot be killed via Unblockable, Indestructible, and Untargetable.
Usually having (1) and 2/3 of (2) is good enough. Your general naturally comes with a way to get high power and unblockable. You do not need to give him more sources of unblockalbe or power. None. Not one. Every extra power increase will simply put it, be a dead draw. Why pay 12 mana to equip Argentum Armor when you could pay 12 mana to grant +12/+12 and unblockable? I did exaggerate, though; some sources of extra power buff, depending on how the deck functions, can be played.
The only buffs you need are things that do more than just strick power upgrades, more than just unblockable. Fireshrieker in this case is not a bad idea, same with Inquisitor's Flail. These cards don't give your general power buff but rather x2 power (and in Flail's case, halves your toughness). With your general already being able to buff his power and give him Unblockable, you do NOT need to run Batterskull, Argentum Armor, Diviner's Wand, O-Naginata, Loxodon Warhammer, Trailblazer's Boots, Sword of Vengeance or Kusari-Gama (did you seriously read this card? Wtf?) as they are too mana intensive.
Instead, honestly, I'd like to see this deck more dedicated to land spam. I can imagine this deck running an extra amount of lands and then many fun things to do with them. Collective Voyage can usually pay off with ALOT of lands. Having an excess number of lands can also lead to Lost in the Woods triggering multiple times, protecting you from some attacks. Burgeoning, Terrain Generator, Walking Atlas, Budoka Gardener, Oracle of Mul Daya and Azusa, Lost but Seeking all help you play lands faster than everyone else. With a lot of lands, Seer's Sundial, Recycle and Horn of Greed will prevent you from getting clogged up. My favorite card to try out in a deck like this would be Treasure Hunt and Abundance. I can't imagine how much value we can net in a land heavy deck!
Retreat to Coralhelm, Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip (and thus Nissa, Sage Animist), Ior Ruin Expedition, Khalni Heart Expedition, Explorer's Scope and Sword of the Animist will also help preventing the deck from getting clogged. Sword of Feast and Famine is useful to tap all your mana, buff general, swing, and play cards on M2, essentially doubling your land's mana base. Bear Umbra does the same thing and both of them also protect our general. Omniscience lets us play cards without wasting our mana so our lands can be used to buff the general as high as possible. I like the thought of Dictate of Karametra and Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger in this deck. Dictate works nicely as a way to burst general damage our opponent, while Vorinclex can do the same... just a bit mana intensive, but also has a strong second ability and a 7/6 trampling body attached.
We still need to protect your general, and one that works really well with the plan we're currently at is Sylvan Safekeeper, despite her giving Kaseto shroud. Other than her, I highly suggest staying far away from Shroud as possible. We don't want to accidently prevent our general to use his ability on himself. Hexproof is how we should do it with Swiftfoot Boots and Champion's Helm. There are many other sources of hexproof out there, so I suggest you choose which one works best for you. Keep in mind: NO SHROUD! The other form of protection to Kaseto is indestructible. Sadly, Simic doesn't provide a whole lot to offer, but at least we have Darksteel Plate and Fabricate can help tutor for either form of protection.
It's also good to have some, but not alot of ramp spells and mana rocks. I don't believe we need any mana rocks except for Chromatic Lantern. That way we don't need to worry about the specific lands we find, they'll all activate Kaseto. I don't think we don't need more rocks than that. Our ramp should consist of creatures like Yavimaya Elder, Lotus Cobra and Solemn Simulacrum and spells such as Edge of Autumn, Journey of Discovery, Verdant Confluence, Tempt with Discovery, and Boundless Realms. I also mentioned Collective Voyage earlier. I think we're good for now. We'll see in playtesting if we need more or less ramp.
Furthermore, say we barely miss lethal and the opponent has one turn left... Well, we can make their day sad by taking extra turns. Cards like Temporal Mastery, Time Stretch and my favorite, Walk the Aeons, will work quite well in this deck. Now we don't need to reach very far in one swing when we have two swings.
Another fun and evil thing to do is target our opponent's creatures with Kaseto! Why? Well, because it combos nicely with Dismiss into Dream adding lots of board control! It also works with Willbreaker but I do not suggest running him, as he can easily be removed.
Wow! I'm sorry for pretty much making a new deck for you, but honestly, I don't think your current build is good... so I"m just gonna go ahead and finish off this post by completing the deck. I'm already this far.
We're so far 50 cards in. I feel like this is a perfect number of land. 50 land is alot more lands than an EDH should run, so we should be getting many triggers. We're gonna need alot of basics and almost no colorless lands, as each color we don't have is another power our general doesn't get. This limits us, so I'd suggest only four colorless lands, and one land without mana abilities: Terrain Generator, Reliquary Tower, Strip Mine, Homeward Path, and Maze of Ith. These cards are great tech cards that should be in most EDHs. Every other colorless land will just get in the way. Then comes our colored non-basics. Your original list is fine with what it had for colored lands and I especially liked Cavern of Souls here, as it works perfectly for this general. Once we've filled up our colored lands and colorless lands, we have room for 36 cards left. That's an even split of 18 forests and 18 islands, but let's look at the color differentiation in the deck. We have almost 70% of the deck green. Doing the math, that means we should have 25 Forests and 11 Islands.
That is what I believe a Kaseto deck should look like. Running cards like Rogue's Passage will seriously screw you over. You don't need to pay 4 mana to do what (G)(U) can do, and you need the colored mana, not (1) that Rogue's Passage provides... Keep in mind, it's possible to run Snake Tribal too, which can be more of a midrange build, having constant threats being played on tempo. But for a Voltron who wants you to TAP OUT each turn... you can't be running 20 instants, or a bunch of dead cards.
Like I said, you asked for a review, and this is it. I hope you've learned more about deck building overall, and likewise, I'll be here if you need anything.