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, Sacrifice a land: Put two 1/1 red and white Goblin Soldier creature tokens onto the battlefield.
Goblin Trenches Discussion
3 months ago
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7 months ago
@Mishraharad, That's understandable. Reconsidering your stax pieces a better fit for your deck would be Flameshadow Conjuring + Felidar Guardian + Mountain or any land/artifact that comes untapped and can produce .
You have Flameshadow Conjuring in play and a Mountain . You then proceed to cast Felidar Guardian . Both the Felidar and the Flameshadow trigger. You'll always resolve Felidar Guardian 's ETB first targeting your Mountain to flicker and untap it. Then you can tap the Mountain to pay Flameshadow Conjuring 's triggered ability creating a hasty Felidar Guardian token. Because a token enters Flameshadow Conjuring does not trigger again, so instead you have the Felidar Guardian token's ETB target the original Felidar Guardian blinking the cat and having it re-enter the battlefield again which will also re-trigger the Flameshadow Conjuring . You then repeat, cat blinks mountain, mountain makes another haste cat token, haste cat token blinks original cat, until you have enough hasty cats to deal lethal to everyone.
Felidar Guardian is good as it can also combo off with Karmic Guide and Goblin Bombardment . Flameshadow Conjuring may not be an optimal stand alone card, but creating extra ETB's per turn will always give it something to do. Do note if your opponent kills the cat before you can go infinite you won't be able to reinitiate the combo for lethal by recurring the cat with your commander, as you'll have wasted the combat step doing so. However, if you do so with a Goblin Bombardment or Altar of Dementia you can then deal lethal as you'll have infinite tokens to sacrifice to anyways.
There are a few other lethal combos that crossed my mind that would also by-pass all your current stax pieces:
Mana Echoes + Goblin Trenches + Drownyard Temple = Infinite goblins, infinite colorless mana, and infinite landfall. Can be activated at instant speed on an opponent's end-step making the tokens safe from boardwipe.
Teysa, Orzhov Scion + Darkest Hour + Goblin Bombardment + any other creature = Sac the other creature, since Darkest Hour made the creature black Teysa produces a 1/1 white spirit token. Darkest Hour however makes the spirit token black, so sacrificing the spirit will produce another black spirit, and again and again for endless sac-effects.
1 year ago
Alright. Ill look for more low cost, first few turn token summoners. Maybe some of these would fit here: Rhys the Redeemed (using the white half) Evangel of Heliod (I know he has a little bit more cmc, but he is pretty good), maybe Elspeth Tirel for later game (or Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Rise of the Hobgoblins, or Goblin Trenches.
1 year ago
I feel like this deck is not focused enough on the theme of "make tons of tokens." You have a lot of cards that make tokens, but many of them don't really do it efficiently. Some examples:
Awaken the Sky Tyrant - makes only one token, and only if an opponent lets you make it.
Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts - makes tokens only if your opponents let you
Skyline Despot - makes one token per turn if your opponents let you (or if you leave back plenty of defense)
Ghirapur Gearcrafter - makes one token
Descent of the Dragons - this is secretly a one-shot anthem that doesn't let you attack the turn you cast it
Dragonmaster Outcast - makes one token per turn on turn 6+ if your opponents can't kill a 1/1
Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs - makes tokens if your opponents let you
Custodi Soulbinders - makes tokens for 3 mana each if there are a decent number of creatures out when you cast it
You get the idea.
Personally I'd try to run five or six anthem effects and hit the token makers really hard. I counted thirteen anthem effects in this version of the deck. Also, one anthem effect comes to mind that you aren't running - Jazal Goldmane. That card should play better than either Mikaeus or Ravos (both of which I'd cut).
Efficient token makers you could run: White Sun's Zenith, Bitterblossom (harder to kill than Outcast), Secure the Wastes, Goblin Trenches, Storm Herd, Sacred Mesa, Requiem Angel, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, Thopter Assembly (if you don't run other Thopter makers), Hanweir Garrison, Rise of the Hobgoblins, Twilight Drover. I think Legion's Landing could potentially work in here too - it's inefficient from a mana perspective but it's a one-drop that shouldn't be too hard to flip and at that point it taps for mana. Which brings me to
Lands: There's quite a few lands that I think could play well here. Kjeldoran Outpost, Kher Keep, Vault of the Archangel, Hanweir Battlements (if you run the Garrison), or Windbrisk Heights. Creature lands are also secretly good here because they benefit from your anthems and let you mount an offense even when untapping on an empty board after a sweeper. Ghitu Encampment, Needle Spires, Lavaclaw Reaches, Shambling Vent, Mishra's Factory and so on.
Haste: If you're going to make a ton of tokens, you really want to bash with them right away, before your opponents can sweep your board. I like Hammer of Purphoros here because it makes tokens and Ogre Battledriver because it doubles as a pseudo-Anthem, but there's also Fervor, Anger, Akroma's Memorial and probably other cards I haven't thought of.
I definitely think there's potential for this deck concept. Just remember that Dragon tokens and anthems don't go in the same deck (except Crucible of Fire). Good luck!
2 years ago
2 years ago
Also I see you're running High Priest of Penance, let me tell you that card is bonkers in this deck if you're reanimating and pinging him with a Desert. Destroying permanents every turn is fun especially when its cheap.
Also, I recently came across an infinite combo I don't think any other deck is using. I could see the combo: Goblin Trenches + Mana Echoes + Drownyard Temple doing really well in this deck since most EDH decks can have troubles removing enchantments and the fact you can generate the Goblins at instant speed means you can do so on an opponent's end step right before your turn by-passing the threat of boardwipes.
I hope my suggestions are of some use to you.
2 years ago
2 years ago
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