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Frogtosser Banneret Discussion
2 weeks ago
Awsome deck man+1 definetly! I've made a couple of changes of my own regarding the creatures (will have a look later on the lands and the Dispell ).
I believe we are on to something . Let me know what you think:
-I've replaced 4x Inkfathom Infiltrator for 4x Oona's Prowler ( personally, I believe the trade off between being "unblockable" for a bigger dmg (3/1) + possiblity of hand disrupt + its mana cost is 1 colorless and 1 black(so we are able to decrease its cost through Frogtosser Banneret , which we didn't manage to do w/ Inkfathom Infiltrator due to their 2 CMC being both blac/blue) + keeping the rogue tribal aspect, preserving that way the possibility of getting pumped like every other creature we have better in an overall way.
-I've replaced 2x Triton Shorestalker for 2x Vampire Cutthroat. The tradeoff between being only unblockable, compared with her skulk hability + lifelink + preserving its rogue aspect, which enables her to get pumped as well better.
-I've decreased 1 unity of Invisible Stalker, I thought 4 was too much.
-I've withdrawn the 4x copies of Royal Assassin
-I've added 1x Aqueous Form + 3x Cold-Eyed Selkie for draw engine, and again, preserving its caracteristics of being a rogue (able of getting pumped) and able of having its CMC decreased by 1 due to its colorless mana.
- And, I've added 2x Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive. It basically looks like this card was created for rogue/farie/tribal haha
Again, tks for the inspiration
4 months ago
Looks pretty cool. If you are trying to maintain a lower budget but love the goblins rakdos goblins are pretty good too.you get things like Warren Weirding Fodder Launch Frogtosser Banneret Spike Jester and many many more, look into if you thinj you might like it. Apostle's Blessing might be a solid sideboard card, and I dont know for sure but Infernal Plunge seems like a good fit in here. 2 last things, Tarfire Boggart Shenanigans are both good too.
5 months ago
Invisible Stalker is a powerhouse in a deck like this. Cloak and Dagger is also really good. Morsel Theft is strong, so is Nameless Inversion Frogtosser Banneret and Ego Erasure is great sideboard hate for slivers, humans, basically any tribe.
6 months ago
Why Manic Vandal over Tuktuk Scrapper? I see it is 1 CMC less, but if you ran 4x Goblin Warchief like most legacy decks you could easily drop for 1-3 mana in most games, or just Vial it in. Plus, it won't go to the bottom of your deck with a ringleader drop pull.
Krenko, Mob Boss is a 1x staple for most decks now.
You don't see many decks in this format running Warren Instigator since it an RR and there are much rougher choices for a 2 drop for goblins I think like Mogg War Marshal, or obviously Goblin Piledriver.
I agree with the above comment that Goblin Grenade is not good in legacy. I do however, think a 1x Legion Loyalist is worth it to give your other goblins great buffs as a 1 drop, especially piledrivers.
Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control and lets you retrigger matrons and ringleaders with a sac mechanism like Goblin Sledder or as most decks run, 1x Skirk Prospector. This isn't a popular choice, but worth considering. I run it in my RB goblin deck, but thats for casual. The champion effect of Lightning Crafter has the same retrigger potential.
Frogtosser Banneret could help you reduce costs of some of your goblins just like a Goblin Warchief, but you have neither. I think these are important for tribal goblins (most run warchief over frogtosser for the haste/monored).
1-2x Ancient Tomb seems to have dropped off most top8 decklists, but I like running 2 in mine. I run Food Chain Goblins and dirty kitty though, so my mechanic is different (and more vulnerable, but faster) than vial gobs.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is nuts.
As for the sideboard, many people like running Krosan Grip if they splash with green. Also consider Thoughtseize. I also think that Blood Moon like stated above is great for MONORED in the sideboard if you choose to drop black. I think a 1x Goblin King is nice in the sideboard as well. Red Elemental Blast might help in the side as well.
6 months ago
@shrapnel: food chain goblins is not as good as any other combo deck as it cannot win within a reasonabe amount of time. Ancient Tomb is risky as it does not allow turn 1 Goblin Lackey, and functions the same if playing for turn 1 Aether Vial. No need to run Frogtosser Banneret if you have 4 warchiefs. Goblin Tunneler is cute, winmore, slow, and not needed (cannot be used on turn 2 make lackey unblockable). Fodder Launch < Dismember, both are uneeded.
While vial is a turn slower, it makes your goblins "not Force of Will targets", which is key.
I agree with your comment about wort.
6 months ago
Looks like a fun deck! I play legacy goblins as well. It is pretty rare to see the black splash since many of the black cards for goblins aren't as good as the monoreds. I highly suggest since you are running vial to check out food chain goblins and dirty kitty as well for ideas. Food chain is insane in a goblin deck (much more explosive and reliable than vial imo) and dirty kitty is basically an all in red version of goblins and is a blast to play. A few cards to look into:
Mentioned above. Food chain decks run this + Lightning Crafter + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker for an infinite damage combo that you can get out pretty consistently turn 5, which puts your opponent on a clock.
Crazy good land for goblins, most people run 2-3
You don't see these a lot, but dropping a few in with your warchiefs gives some intense cost reductions
You rarely see these in legacy gobs as well but I think this is an underrated card. Will usually come out for R and let lackeys/piledrivers go through chump blockers. You can drop it on a piledriver before they get their passive buff and he is still unblockable.
In general I would say you should also consider dropping a single Tarfire for a Fodder Launch. Wort, Boggart Auntie is also kind of slow for the format. Looks like fun though. Remember for goblins any non-goblin card hurts your synergy. Looks like a fun deck. I used to play vial, but I think it is too slow for legacy and switched to dirty kitty/food chain.
7 months ago
IlGuale I think Frogtosser Banneret is good because as you said, I play low mana cost creatures, with less mana I can cast more stuff and I think it also work on prowl cost of Stinkdrinker Bandit cuz it'still a rogue
7 months ago
Don't know if you know already, but Saffron_Olive has published a budget Rogue deck this week (https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-87-33-tix-rogues-modern). Since you already play almost only Rogue creatures, i suggest you to go full tribal and look at his matches to see if you like it.
Then, in my opinion, Frogtosser Banneret is a bad card in your build, because you play creatures with a very low mana cost and would always want to play Stinkdrinker Bandit for its prowl cost. For the same reason, you could easily play with 20-21 lands.