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Foundry of the Consuls
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Foundry of the Consuls Discussion
3 weeks ago
4 months ago
this is the deck I need help with.I just wanna make it better. It was loosely based on managorger hydra back in Origins.
6 months ago
These are the cards above 10 dollars and what to include instead:
- Exploration can be changed for Burgeoning, but Exploration is more explosive since it lets you also cast a one mana creature on turn one and attack with it on turn two, drawing a card.
- Temporal Manipulation can be changed for Part the Waterveil
- Time Warp is very importart, I would recommend you buying it (I'm saving for Capture of Jingzhou since 5 mana take a turn are crucial for going off), but if you are short on money Temporal Trespass may do the trick
- Gaea's Cradle can be replaced with Boreal Druid. Don't use Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, since it is too slow. Remember to take out Crop Rotation
- Flusterstorm can be replaced with some other cheap counterspell, maybe Mana Leak, Disdainful Stroke or Swan Song (beware: the bird token blocking your flying creatures is very annoying)
- Force of Will can be replaced with Foil, specially since you will have more basics by taking out fetches. Abjure is another good option.
- Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt and Mana Crypt: fast mana is really important for this deck, maybe Elvish Spirit Guide can replace one, also try Druids' Repository and Nature's Will (specially if there is stax in your meta.
Regarding the mana base, just take of all the fetches, shocks and Cavern of Souls (its not that important) and replace them with duals lands that come into place untapped, like Reflecting Pool and Exotic Orchard (this is very important). If you don't find lands that come into play untapped, just play basics, a high basic land count its actually a good thing since Elvish Pioneer on turn one is one of your more explosive hands (it lets you cast Edric on turn two and attack with a creature).
This is a very "all in" version of the deck. Maybe a budget friendly version could try to be more resilient and run cards like Coastal Piracy, Bident of Thassa and more ways of protecting your creatures from wrath effects, Wrap in Vigor, Chasm Skulker, Hangarback Walker, Whisperwood Elemental, Foundry of the Consuls, Faerie Conclave are just some that come to mind.
This deck started as a budget one, and it did very well then :) it does improve with expensive cards, but not as much as you would think.
Best of luck! Upload yours when you build it and let me know of the results.
6 months ago
Looks pretty great; I built a Jalira list myself recently, and she's an absolute blast to play. I'd swap out Tromokratis and Lorthos, the Tidemaker since you actually can't flip them with Jalira (she specifies nonlegendary). I suggest including Inkwell Leviathan as a replacement beater and Talrand, Sky Summoner as an additional token generator. If you want other big creature budget ideas Pathrazer of Ulamog, Frost Titan, Stormsurge Kraken, Artisan of Kozilek, and Deep-Sea Kraken are all pretty cheap.
Definitely recommend some board clears to help stabilize yourself into the lategame so you can actually get the big dudes out. Whelming Wave, Engulf the Shore, and Crush of Tentacles are all pretty good in this respect.
I'm gonna link my build here in case you ever want to go above $30 as your budget; don't worry, there's nothing crazy expensive in here except for the Blightsteel Colossus I opened in a booster pack back in the day: Jalira Big Dumb Beaters EDH
9 months ago
usaDiabetic Hahaha honestly I really appreciate your interest in this deck so thank you very much and I really appreciate all the suggestions. That said Here's my opinionn on all options,Retreat to Emeria-- It's got some potential, def a maybeboard.
Hanweir Militia Captain Flip-- Definitely would benefit from the token, but it would become a target the moment It's flipped. One of the main strategies I was thinking of when building this deck is trying to sit below the radar. I want my opponents to have to struggle to pick a target on my board until they withdraw they're moves or aim removal elsewhere in order to maintain value. In HIMYM, Ted dates so many girls in the series, there are only minor moments that hint at him finding the right one. In this deck, we don't want our opponent to know who our winner is until the last season. In order to do that we have to give him an abundance of information to speculate. For this reason, I've also avoided the use of cards like Scytheclaw and Batterskull, because the moment they become attached, we start giving our opponent a reason to look at our board. If we want our opponent to man up and target us we want to make him/her pull the trigger on a full boardwipe and hopefully let it hit the whole board. I'm also using this reason to exclude the following: Bonehoard, Cathedral of War, Duelist's Heritage, and to a lesser extent Citadel Siege (to get boardwide use is too slow).
Sublime Archangel is a lot better than the cathedral, but I doubt I'll get more than 1 turn out of it, plus we run into a similar issue of putting a lot of energy into a 1 turn move.
I like the idea of Pull from Eternity for sure
Archangel of Tithes would be a great pillowfort addition.
I agree with Day of the Dragons being too harmful since none of my tokens will come back. Unless I'm willing to trade my tokens for essentially other tokens I'm gonna count this one out.
I'm gonna put some thought into Soul Separator it has some weird potential.
Keeper of Keys is not bad but I have to make it all the way around the table before he becomes effective and that's a lot of turns for people to notice that I'm about to blow my load. Venser, the Sojourner is better imo but I just wonder if Im going to get more than 1 turn out of him.
Saheeli's Artistry is not bad, it's a pretty high cost but if the artifacts are there then it might be worth it to toss one in for the match. I don't see enough value out of the cards in this deck alone to run it for copying my own stuff.
Back from the Brink will be more counterproductive than eternalize, but it may have potential for others. If I could create a Pull from Eternity and Isochron Scepter setup then there could be some huge value out of Back from the Brink
Murder Investigation depends on if I can fins more value vs the others in the deck since it's not a bad choice.
Lastly, I actually already looked at Foundry of the Consuls and felt like it just cost to much to take up another land spot.
9 months ago
Alright...buckle up this is going to be a doozy. Also, i'm going to apologize now for spamming your decklist, but I love the idea of this deck and want to build it myself...buuuut I have some ideas, and I want to see what you think.
First off, I think Pull from Eternity is a must to bring back eternalized and embalmed creatures.
I was wondering about all the life gain cards in your deck. If I were going to keep them, i'm thinking of Crested Sunmare
Day of the Dragons is an interesting card to me, but I could see it backfiring, so meh.
soooo yeah i think that's about it, or all i'm willing to type. Tell me what you think...well, if im not being completely annoying. Either way you made a sweet build, and I hope to make my own version soon!!
9 months ago
All depends on your budget!
10 months ago
Crucible of Worlds is in now way budget, but it's amazing. THere's a new card in hour of Devastation that's a creature and green but does the same thing :P
Some land suggestions, some better than others:Blighted WoodlandWintermoon MesaCentaur GardenCradle of the AccursedDust BowlEncroaching WastesFoundry of the ConsulsGargoyle CastleGhost QuarterGrasping DunesHaunted FengrafHavenwood BattlegroundHickory Woodlot Petrified Field Spawning Bed Tectonic Edge Terminal MoraineThrone of the High CityTimberland RuinsWarped LandscapeDryad Arbor
Looks like a great deck :D