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Creature — Human Rogue
Damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead.
Morph (Red)(Red) (You may play this face down as a 2/2 creature for (3). Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
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Fortune Thief Discussion
1 week ago
I would cut some of the less impactful cards and replace them with mana rocks and card draw spells. I'm not sure if the defender & elemental tribal themes are helping at all either, I would cut them all and focus on supporting the dragon strategy. Dragons are great blockers, you just need a bunch of mana rocks to cast them a tad earlier. 2 CMC mana rocks like Coldsteel Heart, Fellwar Stone, Izzet Signet, Boros Signet, and Azorius Signet are best, but any "taps for mana" artifacts would do I think. Looks like it could be a fun deck once it gets going. I would also use smaller cantrips like Brainstorm, Preordain, Ponder, Serum Visions, and Sleight of Hand to help you smooth out draws and find your mana early.
I know I'm suggesting some big changes, but I think they will improve the deck's performance tremendously. Cards I saw to cut in addition to the defender & elemental themes: Narset, Enlightened Master, Crown of Empires, Fortune Thief, Soaring Hope, Earth Rift, and Flowstone Flood.
3 weeks ago
2 months ago
Suns_Champion, ya I got a lot of those in, but you did point out a couple I missed. Comeuppance seems sweet, as effectively a wrath for one opponent, and fetchable with Sunforger (which I had been considering, but left out bc I didn't know if I had enough cards to get with it. I'm adding it after I add Comeuppance and maybe some of those Fogs). I already had Selfless Squire, Worship, and Rakdos Charm. Not a huge fan of Deflecting Palm here, as in my meta the only time it'll do a ton of damage is after a Craterhoof Behemoth resolves or something similar. Wrath of Goad seems at the very least a lot of fun. And a tad more damage prevention would probably be smart, so Gisela, Blade of Goldnight or something similar should be in here (Is Protection of the Hekma is probably too little for too much mana. Maybe Ajani Steadfast for the ult? His other abilities might be a good wincon, either by slowly getting in with Marchesa or pumping up a ton of tokens).
DrukenReaps: Gonna read through your deck as soon as I post this. I know Aikido is a much better version of what I'm trying to do here, but my playgroup always tries to kill me first, so politics isn't my strong point.
cdkime: As I said above, thanks so much for suggesting Near-Death Experience! Didn't even think about that. I'll test Soul Link and the others, since as I said above I do need a little more damage prevention so I don't just force people to kill me. On that note, the Fogs might make their way in, starting with Batwing Brume and Pollen Lullaby. Darkness and Holy Day will really only be considered if I go with the Paradox Engine idea, but I'll have to make sure I have enough instants w/ CMC 2 or 1 for Isochron Scepter, and enough cards that will make Paradox Engine useful elsewhere. Or maybe I just add a lot more tutors.
Thanks everyone for so much support on this deck so far!
2 months ago
2 months ago
You may need to include black if you are wanting people to attack you. That will give you access to things like Marchesa's Decree, Blood Reckoning, Hissing Miasma, No Mercy, Dread, and Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts.
I would also recommend running mostly rattle snakes for your creatures like Ophiomancer or Archetype of Finality. You are not only looking to make them attack you but also gain some kind of advantage from the attack. If you are not gaining advantage you are just making a deck designed to lose the game.
Due to the variety of colors in my post perhaps O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami would be the right commander? I will note that I built this deck and couldn't really get it to work but perhaps I just didn't give it enough time to sort out.
2 months ago
Hi! Love Neheb and glad you're giving him a try! Hope you like him too!
Here's my list for reference: OH LORD JESUS IT'S A FIRE! | Neheb EDH
A lot of the key Neheb pieces are already here. Nice work!
Though I don't see Sol Ring for some reason. I know some playgroups ban it so I don't know :)
I think the single most important aspect of a mono red EDH deck is card draw. With Neheb, you having 5 cards late game is almost as good as say, a simic deck with 10 cards. That's how powerful Neheb is. In mine I run 14 ways to draw cards. Chandra, Torch of Defiance is amazing if you can afford her, Desert of the Fervent, Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is great with Neheb, as you exile the cards then because of all the dmage , you have the mana to cast them, Hedron Archive is just a solid ramp/draw artifact, Humble Defector is pretty good, and again you can give him to the blue deck that already has enough cards, and you can also run Homeward Path as utility, Infiltration Lens is great because either Neheb goes unblocked or you get two cards, Knollspine Dragon can be okay to great, is kinda hard to play and costs a lot, Loreseeker's Stone is good, trust me; you'll always have enough mana for it to benefit you, Prophetic Flamespeaker is nice especially early, risky though if you hit an important card too early so watch out, Reforge the Soul a red staple, Sword of Fire and Ice if you can afford it does wonders for Neheb, damage and card draw, Throne of the High City and Arch of Orazca might be good as utility land slots, of which you can have a lot.
if you have card draw, it doesn't matter what else you do with the deck because it'll work fine because you're drawing and then ramping with Neheb!
So next are some random cards that I've found useful: Generator Servant for a turn 3 hasty neheb, Fortune Thief to not die from your own spells, Viashino Heretic removal and damage, You also seem to need more small burn spells to fuel the big ones, so Firebrand Archer, Flamebreak, Sizzle, stuff like that. I haven't tested Unstable Obelisk but I think it'll be good.
As for cuts: Thermo-Alchemist(firebrand Archer is better IMO), Star of Extinction can be countered by a Strip Mine and doesn't hurt players, Braid of Fire is cool but 75% of the mana is usually wasted, Koth of the Hammer doesn't really do enough and his ultimate isn't all that great, Hellkite Charger's trigger is on atack so you can't use Neheb's mana for it, Combustible Gearhulk seems good but your opponent will always choose the option worse for you.
Anyway, great start! Neheb is my #1 Favorite commander so if you ever need any help or have questions let me know/look at my primer!
2 months ago
7 months ago
With Platinum Angel state based actions will be checked and cause Platinum Angel to be put destroyed at the same time as all other players lose the game. This means you will win the game, which is good, because the very next thing that would happen is state based actions being checked again and you losing the game.
With Fortune Thief the damage would cause your life total to become 1 and then state based actions would cause Fortune Thief to be destroyed at the same time as ell other players losing the game. This time your super safe because even if the game somehow continued your life total would still be 1.