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Fated Conflagration deals 5 damage to target creature or planeswalker. If it's your turn, scry 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.)
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Fated Conflagration Discussion
1 week ago
Have you considered Reito Lantern as another way to recycle creatures?
Your deck is short 1 card - you only have 99 including your commander - and you have FAR too many lands (I would definitely not run more than 36, especially with such a low curve). You also have no draw effects, very little ramp, and almost no removal - I'd try Herald's Horn, Sol Ring, Braid of Fire, Talisman of Indulgence, Phyrexian Arena, Grim Haruspex, Night's Whisper, Decree of Pain, Toxic Deluge, and Patriarch's Bidding, maybe?
2 months ago
So I love red. Obviously, the most iconic Red card is Lightning Bolt. It's been a while that, being mainly a modern Burn player, it's been lacking reach against those high toughness dudes (hi, Eldrazis...). So I just figured: why not have a bigger bolt for a higher cmc?
Big Bolt deals 4 damage to target creature or player.
Big bolt deals 6 damage to target cretaure or player.
Do you guys think it would be too OP? Or in the contrary, do you think a similar card could one day see the light?
I'm not saying that Burn needs to be pushed here, just that I'd love to see more cards with multiple in their CMC and that Fated Conflagration is an insult to us Red mages.
3 months ago
Get out (make sure to have 4R mana and 1U mana plus 6 of any at the start of the turn) Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + The Locust God + Curiosity Start your turn, Untap, draw, activate draw/pain loop with niv + getting buggos interrupt with two cards in library by using Fated Conflagration on niv. Kill one opponent with the niv loop, smash another with horde of buggos, start of next persons upkeep before they've drawn play Psychic Spiral and they draw out (as you just dumped your whole library -8 into your grave) then start of next turn play Laboratory Maniac draw last card +1 with draw ability and win (last part for a more than 4 player game)
1 year ago
We even have 5 damage burn spells for 3 or less. That's Tribal Flames, Browbeat, Shrapnel Blast, and Brimstone Volley. There's even Fated Conflagration, Thunderous Wrath, and Beacon of Destruction that are higher up in the chain.
I think 6 damage for 3 CMC is probably the baseline you'd need for a burn spell to be worth cutting a 2 CMC burn spell for. It has to not be complete shit or have other other modes/benefits.
I doubt WotC would ever print such a card, to be honest. It'd be a nightmare for Standard. Play any 1-drop on turn 1 that can potentially deal damage, any 2-drop on 2, attack, then go "Oops? I guess I won when I drew 3 copies of a ridiculous burn spell and just shoot you 3 times in the face, for a total of 18?"
You just have to connect twice with the 1-drop or once with the 2-drop and your opponent is staring down lethal if they tap out after turn 2. It's worse if the 1-drop and 2-drop are burn spells and not creatures.
1 year ago
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Okay, so I love the changes you've made to this deck. I especially love your clever addition of scrying mechanics, so that you can manipulate the cards Jeleva exiles. Crystal Ball, for example, is perfect. I'd check out Fated Conflagration, Fated Return, or Fated Infatuation as potential additional scry effects. Sacrifice mechanics are also brilliant, since it's in your opponents' best interest to leave Jeleva alive, and you need to force a re-cast. Brilliant.
You've also added a lot of "haymakers" or "gamechangers" like Worst Fears, Cruel Ultimatum, etc.Many of these are great, but I feel obligated to mention a quick note on power level -- depending on who you play with, sometimes "extra turn" or "control someone else's turn" effects are frowned upon, or at least, the average power level of your friends' decks may be lower than those turn-control effects. Just be considerate, and remember that the most expensive cards don't always equate to the best cards for your deck (you may not be able to tell, but I'm a big proponent of budget deck-building, haha). Anyways, to the details:
I don't think you need Mind Over Matter, Price of Knowledge, Mnemonic Wall, and some haymakers like Searing Wind, Blood Tribute (Jeleva is your only Vamp, and she'll often tap to attack unless you give her vigilance through equipment, which seems wasteful) and Sorin's Vengeance and maybe some extra turn stuff. The reason I say this is that you don't need to cast a haymaker every single turn to win a game -- you just need enough to gain advantage and capitalize on it. You've put in scrying, which reinforces going for quality over quantity with your wind conditions. Furthermore, I wouldn't put in Traumatize or Liliana Vess from your SB unless you really want to -- they're not much valued added.
To swap in your SB, my most valuable card-cutting advice is to look for effects that your desired card will replace. For example Spelltwine's effect mirrors (and probably is better than) the effect of Mnemonic Wall, so that's a ripe card to swap. As another example, Necromantic Selection might be a fairer version of Plague Wind, which I'm sure your friends would appreciate (also has the benefit of destroying Jeleva, so that you can recast). The exception is when you don't just want to replace an effect, you want to add more of the effect, like with Lim-Dul's Vault. I'd put that card in for something like Mind Over Matter, just a straight swap of "I want this effect" versus "this doesn't help me a ton". However, one of the most rewarding things about deckbuilding is tuning your own deck, so I won't insult your intelligence and explain every card swap to you (: just remember that playtesting is hugely important, and you can playtest without having paper copies of every single card -- just put in a similar (or worse) card and see how you like it.
On that note, you should be sure to notice during playtesting how much card draw you're wanting. Grixis colors are awesome for card draw, and card draw is often necessary to maintaining your fuel during the course of a game. Granted, Jeleva is kinda like free card draw, but if you ever spend a game with 20 cards in exile and only 2 in hand, that's when I'd tweak the number of dedicated draw engines. Treasure Cruise, Staff of Nin, Preordain, Anticipate, Carnage Altar even. The cool thing about drawing is that it gives you more haymakers without actually having copies in your deck (since you'll go through your deck faster), and also ensures you get enough support to actually make the win happen (through land, ramp, utility spells, etc).
Sorry about the novella, but I hope some of this was useful! Best of luck with Jeleva-- you've chosen a cool and flavorful commander, and I hope all goes well for you. As always, reply if I can do anything else.
1 year ago
Major update.I recently decided to take this deck to the next level and try it out in a competitive enviroment so i had to make drastic changes to it.
Out : Weatherseed Totem , Fires of Yavimaya , Paragon of Eternal Wilds , Ogre Battledriver , Surrak, the Hunt Caller , Anger , Fated Conflagration , Nylea's Emissary , Overrun , Caller of the Claw , Brooding Saurian , Flametongue Kavu , Where Ancients Tread , Opal Palace , Centaur Garden , Fertile Thicket , 3 x Mountain
Sol Ring , Aggravated Assault , Dragonlord Atarka , Eternal Witness , Temple of the False God , Rogue's Passage , Wooded Foothills , Temple of Abandon , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Yavimaya Dryad , Song of the Dryads , Terra Stomper , Green Sun's Zenith , Scavenging Ooze , World Breaker , Atarka, World Render , Price of Glory , 2 x Wastes
I hope it works as planned :)
1 year ago
Most of these are lower cast spells that will burn your opponent up but the only downside is the experience counter gaining ability that Mizzix of the Izmagnus has. It will help you gain experience counters up quick early in the game though.
Other nice spells to use would be:
Creatures that burn (another maybe option):
Here's some ideas.
I'll do more research and look through my binders for more spells with 4+ Up mana costs. Hope this helps some.
2 years ago
I like the deck, I think it's hard to make a good aggro work in commander with budget in mind, and I think you've done well. My only suggestion would be to cut some of the high end creatures that aren't worth their cost, and replace them with sweet, low cost cards like World at War, Relentless Assault, and Fury of the Horde. I would cut Giant Solifuge, Foe-Razer Regent, Borborygmos. I would also look at removing Chandra's Outrage and Fated Conflagration for more ramp, because even with a few cuts, the mana cost of your deck is really high. Perhaps Explosive Vegetation and Mind Stone. The total cost of these changes is roughly 4 dollars, based on StarCity prices, so you could probably find it for less. Hope this helps.