Exile target creature with converted mana cost 3 or greater.
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|Throne of Eldraine (ELD)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Epic Downfall Discussion
3 weeks ago
Determining just how broken a card is depends on how well it can be interacted with. Omanth is very easy to interact with. However I do believe Genesis Ultimatum or Escape to the Wilds should have seen the axe
The other problem is that so many players are playing it just to win.
I think the bigger problem is that it forces a player to interact with it so early which throws off an opponents game plan, that and players don't want to put more removal in their decks.
Bloodchief's Thirst, Giant Killer, Mutual Destruction, Feed the Swarm Heartless Act Legion's Judgment Murderous Rider Mythos of Nethroi Dirge Bat Hagra Mauling Flip Drag to the Underworld Smite the Monstrous Triumphant Surge Angelic Ascension Dire Tactics Epic Downfall Necromentia Deny the Divine Eat to Extinction Banishing Light Skyclave Apparition Redcap Melee Thundering Rebuke Charge of the Forever-Beast Flame Spill Soul Sear Channeled Force Mythos of Vadrok Rumbling Rockslide The Akroan War Concerted Defense Anticognition Essence Scatter Jwari Disruption Flip Lofty Denial Cancel Convolute Deny the Divine Didn't Say Please Mystical Dispute Mystical Dispute Memory Drain Rewind Agonizing Remorse Memory Theft Pelakka Predation Flip Shatter the Sky Storm's Wrath Extinction Event
That's a whole lot of cards that can deal with Omnath decks. So its not so broken that it can't be dealt with. Does it mean you have to add more than 4 removal cards or change colors? You might have to. Does it mean you might have to change some strategy? Possibly.
Mono White has at least 12 solid answer cards for Omnath and you can still play aggro. Blue has counterspells though you might have to pair it with another color. Red has a few options as well, and the only color that is lacking is if you play mono green. With that many cards you really can't say it's so broken it's unbeatable. You have to play around it. You have to anticipate the strategy. These cards can easily be maindecked, and if youre a player that goes 38 creatures and only 22 lands then I'm sorry for you.
But I wholey disagree with the term Broken. Ive often seen Omnath players quit when they lose Cobra and Omnath. I've also seen a lot of them pass the turn and pass several turns. If you cannot answer it, its out of lack of trying, preparedness, or just a bad game which happens. Also, its not Omnath doing broken things. Omnath only produces the mana to do really really good things. IF Wizards bans Escape and Ultimatum players will have to switch to Lithoforming and while it won't kill the deck it will slow it down and I think that's a more fair approach. But yeah... as above, you don't have to limit yourself to just what's being played. Think outside the box.
3 weeks ago
Yeah, I think I became so impressed with Sea Gate Stormcaller that I kinda gave up on the kicker idea. I think I’ll make this again with green.
1 month ago
Black doesn't get exile this cheap, even with downside. If you would give it to them, the color would take over some of White's main strengths. The downside is mostly negligible based on the format.
In Commander you have 40 life to take from, so if the opponent gets to achieve a high power creature where this is your only removal choice, you're in trouble. But in 99% of cases, it just costs you a small amount of life, which black happily does in so many other aspects of the color.
In Standard you'll only target stuff that doesn't cost you too much - but the alternative is often to take the combat damage to the face. If the meta is dominated by big power creatures, you run destroy removal, and possibly this as SB if WotC decides to make a stronger Bronzehide Lion.
In Eternal formats you SB it against creatures where the cost is negligible or where it disrupts your opponent's combo.
Also... Tragic Slip exists and that is how Black usually does removal that bypass indestructible, but it is conditional when it's this cheap.
Black is usually tied at 4 CMC for unconditional exile removal, as seen in Eat to Extinction, Gild, Deadly Rollick. The last one having a conditional situation where it's free, specifically for Commander.
White is and should be the king of cheap flexible exile, or it loses one of its few strengths.
1 month ago
To improve the consistency of the deck you can play more 4 ofs and 3 ofs rather than a lot of 1 ofs and 2 ofs. If there's a card you want to see multiple copies of every game play 4. If you want to see it maybe once per game play 3.
Rotting Regisaur is pretty nice.
Wishclaw Talisman isn't very good unless you play combo because it allows your opponent to tutor for a card to so that should probably be cut.
Massacre Wurm can be a very powerful one sided board wipe that can win you the game.
Insatiable Hemophage has bad synergy with the rest of your deck because it's the only card that cares about mutate so that should go.
Good Luck and nice win rate!
Xica on Kroxa Skred
5 months ago
If you play black there are plenty of better options than Skred - unless your meta is overrun by Veil of Summer.
Fatal Push, Murderous Cut, Sinister Concoction (in casd you want to kill emrakul), and at 2 mana you havd cards like Dreadbore, that kill walkers too, exile effects to make things really dead and make sure that Wurmcoil Engine doesn't spawn its nrood when it dies like Epic Downfall.
Honorable mention goes to Tragic Slip.
7 months ago
8 months ago
To remove: Callaphe, Beloved of the Sea, Crashing Drawbridge, Empyrean Eagle, Expedition Raptor, Expedition Raptor, Peace Strider, Sephara, Sky's Blade, Serra Angel, Threnody Singer, Tome Raider, Victory's Herald
To add: Solemn Simulacrum, Silas Renn, Seeker Adept, Myr Propagator, Trinket Mage, Trophy Mage, Tribute Mage, Daxos of Meletis, Clever Impersonator, Burnished Hart, Magister Sphinx, Divinity of Pride, Hanna, Ship's Navigator
To Add: Mirage Mirror, Sculpting Steel, Spellbinder, Isochron Scepter, Wayfarer's Bauble, Sol Ring, Traveler's Amulet, Prying Blade, Explorer's Scope, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet, Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves