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Ember Beast Discussion
6 months ago
Thanks for the feedback! OpenFire, I will try to pick up more Goblin King, I just need to find a really cheap set of them. Legion Loyalist are still pricey; I had a playset of them when I was playing standard a while back and ended up selling them along with my other good cards. Gaffa I think that Mogg Flunkies are better than Ember Beast as well, and unfortunately I didn't find that many of them in this 1000-card box I picked up from Star City Games. This is for casual playing, so I figured that I could just piece together what I had in my collection with that 1000 card additive and use that combined collection to build. I don't know if it'd be worth me spending the extra money. I really miss my Champion of the Parish more than anything else. =(
7 months ago
1 year ago
I am currently working on a Jund fatties deck. I am not new to MTG, but I suck at the game and at deck building. The way this deck works is I start out by playing some mana creatures and mana ramp spells. the next few turns, I start playing some creatures like Centaur Battlemaster and Polis Crusher . Then, around turn 6, I start playing really fat fatties to crush my opponent such as Polukranos, World Eater and Mistcutter Hydra . Now I just attack them with my very fat fatties and kill them in one attack. I went through my collection of cards in search of cards that would perform well in this deck. I have now come up with an extremely long list of them. Now, friendly people on www.tappedout.net, I need your help in deciding which cards to take out, and which cards to put in. Here is my list:
x4 Phytoburst x1 Bow of Nylea x1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord x3 Ivy Lane Denizen x3 Defend the Hearth x4 Voyaging Satyr x4 Adaptive Snapjaw x1 Garruk, Caller of Beasts x2 Nylea's Emissary x4 Centaur Battlemaster x1 Polukranos, World Eater x1 Ember Swallower x3 Time to Feed x1 Mistcutter Hydra x4 Rakdos Cackler x4 Nessian Asp x4 Vulpine Goliath x2 Font of Fertility x2 Humbler of Mortals x2 Pheres-Band Tromper x1 Swarmborn Giant x4 Slaughterhorn x3 Giant Growth x4 Nemesis of Mortals x3 Alpha Authority x1 Into the Wilds x1 Trollhide x4 Verdant Haven x2 Satyr Wayfinder x2 Deadbridge Goliath x4 Dreg Mangler x1 Heroes' Bane x3 Golden Hind x1 Carnival Hellsteed x2 Slitherhead x1 Five-Alarm Fire x1 Signal the Clans x1 Master of the Feast x1 Wrecking Ogre x1 Ghor-Clan Rampager x1 Archetype of Aggression x1 Master of Cruelties x1 Archetype of Endurance x4 Golgari Longlegs x2 Reaper of the Wilds x2 Skarrg Guildmage x1 Deadbridge Chant x2 Xenagos, The Reveler x1 Pharagax Giant x2 Burning-Tree Emissary x4 Zhur-Taa Swine x4 Hellhole Flailer x2 Polis Crusher x3 Auger Spree x1 Scorchwalker x3 Armed/Dangerousx1 Rakdos, Lord of Riots x1 Rubblebelt Maaka x3 Ruination Wurm x2 Gruul Charm x1 Rakdos Charm x2 Golgari Charm x1 Lotleth Troll x4 Spawn of Rix Maadi x4 Titan's Strength x1 Maze Abomination x2 Dynacharge x1 Minotaur Abomination x1 Rotted Hulk x1 Deviant Glee x4 Cobblebrute x3 Borderland Minotaur x4 Ember Beast x4 Ripscale Predator x2 Tenement Crasher x1 Maze Rusher x1 Minotaur Aggressor x2 Bloodfray Giant x1 Chaos Imps
That is my list of possible cards (yes I know it is very long). I am trying to make a standard deck, so only recommend standard cards. Please only make recommendations from the cards in this list and cards that I am very likely to have. I don't feel like going off and buying x3 Polukranos, World Eater . I don't have the money to go off buying cards, so don't recommend crazy rare cards. Please just help me to remove enough cards from this list to make it a deck so that I can go wreck faces at FNM. I aslo have R/W Human Enchantment deck on my profile. Please check it out too and give me some pointers.Thank you.
1 year ago
Ember Beast is very bad... There are more than enough beast way better than thatDrop defense of the hearth and add more land
1 year ago
Let us say that I have Tenement Crasher , Minotaur Abomination , Ember Beast , and Batterhorn on my field and I play Shadow Slice deal the 3 damage and exile it to Minotaur Abomination . Next turn I play Illusionist's Bracers and I manage to attack a player directly. Because of Cipher I reactivate Shadow Slice , would Illusionist's Bracers allow me to equip Shadow Slice to my 3 other cards?
1 year ago
The deck looks fun and very affordable. :)
Maybe it's a good idea to give the deck more creatures and less burn, because otherwise, a Polukranos, World Eater for example simply bashes your beasts' face in.
Maybe add Renegade Krasis for some crazy fast extra +1/+1 counters on the beasts that already grew by Advocate of the Beast 's ability. If you reach near 30 creatures, Ember Beast might be a good option as a cheap strong beast that can make Renegade Krasis evolve even to 5/4. Polukranos, World Eater can be a good option too. I think he earns a place in every green aggro-ish deck in standard. Finally, consider Nylea, God of the Hunt for extra power, if you can afford it. You easily get the devotion up to five, especially if you put some other extra creatures in. Oh, and Nylea, God of the Hunt is deadly with Bow of Nylea because of the deathtouch + trample synergy. (Your creatures deal only 1 damage to every blocking creature and the rest to the defending player.)
1 year ago
I'm not sure if you really want Nykthos, due to fact that it will make two-land hands super awkward when one of them is the Shrine to Nyx; all of your two-drops aside from Lightning Strike require two colored mana to cast. As suggested above, switching out Zhur-Taa Druid for Sylvan Caryatid helps remedy this problem a bit.
As for ramp targets, lose the Worldspine Wurm s, for sure, since they will usually just be a dead card in your hand until you get one of your two copies of Garruk or your opponent has zero action and just lets you ramp to infinity. I'm not a huge fan of Mistcutter Hydra , either. If you look at it for each value for x, (1/1 uncounterable, haste, pro-blue for 2; 2/2 uncounterable, haste, pro-blue for 3; etc) it's not a very good card at any point on the curve. If you really want to play him, though, move him to the board. Big dumb monsters that I prefer: Polukranos, Ruric Thar, Gruul Ragebeast , Stormbreath Dragon , Ember Beast (maybe.. might be going a little deep with that one, but it can really set them back), Arbor Colossus . I particularly like the monstrosity mechanic in this deck, because it's a great mana sink for late in the game if you've ramped like crazy, but at the same time, you're not stuck with dead cards if your ramp was blown out by Anger of the Gods /Supreme Verdict .
As for the sideboard, having 8 copies of spells to kill artifacts and enchantments seems like overkill. Here are some suggestions of reasonable sideboard cards that will give you more options to vary up your deck: Burning Earth , more Domri (great against control; I might also find room for more Domri in the main with so many creatures), Peak Eruption (great for dealing with unchaining your dudes from their rocks), Polis Crusher . I typically play at least 10 different cards in my sideboard (lots of one or two-ofs).
Lastly, you want to reliably be casting six-drops by turn four. If you find that you're having trouble because of lands entering the battlefield tapped, I would consider cutting 1-2 gates for basics.
1 year ago
Tenement Crasher is a bad card, I would add 2x Advocate of the Beast because you definitely want to consistently draw him and the more the merrier in this deck. Also I would take out your non-beasts Woodborn Behemoth and Zhur-Taa Swine completely and put 4x Elvish Mystic for acceleration in the deck and the ability to get to the high end of your curve with a bit more ease.For this kind of aggro deck I would definitely run 4x Rancor . I would remove Druid's Deliverance entirely as you have no use for the populate mechanic in this deck and you can have better tricks in GR. Signal the Clans should also be removed as well as Primal Visitation which is simply a terrible card because the +3+3 haste will never be relevant for 5 mana as you can never cast it the same turn as a big creature you want to give haste to. As well almost all your sorceries are very bad / dont fit the curve / aggro levels of the deck. The things you should replace the cards I suggested you remove are 1x more Gruul War Chant 3x Domri Rade and then round out the numbers on your creatures for example you should definitely have 4x Ghor-Clan Rampager Rumbling Baloth 4x Ember Beast etc. Since there are so many changed I have suggested I literally built the deck on tapped out (of course giving you credit for the original concept). Every creature in the deck other than the Advocate of the Beast and your 1drop accelerator Elvish Mystic has the creature type beast and they all enable eachother and almost every single creature will trigger evolve / is very beefy. Domri Rade is in the deck because he is incredible for accelerating your draw as well as giving you lots of spot-removal by using pitfight with your super beefy creatures.
The link to the deck is HERE: The Beast Without.
The only change you may want to make that I am also considering is adding more Primal Huntbeast s as they are hexproof and thus very hard to deal with and probably the best target in the deck for your Advocate of the Beast counters as it is the only thing with real protection.