Dying Wail

Enchantment — Aura

Enchant creature

When enchanted creature is put into a graveyard, target player discards two cards.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (4)

Chutney_Shining on Top of the Deck To Ya

2 years ago

Forgot to click the "suggestions" button, so, to recap my suggested inclusions: Duress Increasing Ambition Raven's Crime Dying Wail Headhunter Hypnotic Specter Carrion Feeder Legion Vanguard Malevolent Noble . Fiend Artisan Hell's Caretaker Golgari Guildmage Malevolent Awakening Murder Doom Blade Poison the Cup Massacre Wurm Sheoldred, Whispering One

Chutney_Shining on Top of the Deck To Ya

2 years ago

Hello stranger, whom I have never met! Awesome concept! Some ideas that come to mind for refining this:

I think your mana curve is super high compared to the number of lands you're running. Since mono-black doesn't access to a lot of ramp, I'd suggest switching out some of your higher costs sorceries, such as Gruesome Discovery , with something like Duress . Similarly, I think that life gain cards like Increasing Ambition are too high costed, and don't really support your overall strategy. I'd suggest replacing with things like Raven's Crime , which you can retrace, or Dying Wail which offer better timing and utility.

Similarly, I think Headhunter and Hypnotic Specter probably have better synergies than your rogues. I really like [card:Black Cat], but think we could do more to trigger it on our terms. Carrion Feeder could be a cool addition, as could Legion Vanguard or Malevolent Noble .

Fiend Artisan is spendy, but would be such a powerful tutor and likely game ender in this build. Hell's Caretaker and Golgari Guildmage are significantly less powerful, but still allow you to exploit repeated triggers of your cats and Sangromancers. If you preferr an enchantment approach, Malevolent Awakening also works well.

I would definitely suggest upping the number of Painful Quandary , and definitely increasing the number of lands you're running to 20-22. I also think 4-8 removal spells, such as Murder , Doom Blade , or Poison the Cup would help respond to enemy threats and interruptions. I'd reduce the number of sorceries to make room - the looping creature threats have more of a long term board presence.

If budget weren't a consideration, a couple of copies of either Massacre Wurm or Sheoldred, Whispering One would make great finishers.

I hope this helps!

thom-le on

5 years ago

Thanks for your advice! It helps me a lot to see new ideas and after all this allows my deck to grow.

KayneMarco: Luminarch Ascension and Cleansing Meditation are going in, they have a low CMC and fits in the strategy. Sigil of the Empty Throne is with total costs of 3WW too expensive, same is for the other cards. There are so many good enchantments, but some of them just slow the deck down - sometimes it's not easy to choose the right ones.

Nickals-Tresarry: Thank you, I really appreciate it! Very nice idea, I'll try it, if the Mindcrank-tactic works.

Lettorbwallclimb: The discard tactic is not the best control theme, I chose it because of my playgroup. It is so easy for them to destroy certain creatures, but they cannot handle the discard effects. I'm going to consider to skip Waste Not if this card does not work. Dying Wail just works with fear, because no one wants to throw cards to the graveyard.

NV_1980: I am really thankful for those suggestions. I have one No Mercy but currently in my Sabotage Stax (Lazav) EDH-Deck. Maybe it is better placed in this one. Your Deck is pretty nice and I love it to scroll through the deck list, great work!

LuxCannonator on Discard Deck

5 years ago

Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Probe, Consult the Necrosages, Hymn to Tourach, Raven's Crime. Augur of Skulls with Cry of Contrition or Dying Wail

If you look up a Legacy 8-Rack build (I have one on my profile) you can get a good start. Liliana's Megrim operates very similarly to 8-Rack.