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Dwarven Ruins enters the battlefield tapped.
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, Sacrifice Dwarven Ruins: Add to your mana pool.
Dwarven Ruins Discussion
4 months ago
Commenting here rather than on your page.
I don't mean to sound so overbearingly critical, but your deck is overall lacking in substantial board presence. Oathbreaker is a format in which you want to protect your Planeswalker at all viable costs. You have four creatures. That does not make for a very strong base. I'm going to rip into this deck, but I am also going to offer you suggestions on how to greatly improve upon it :) I hope that you don't take offense to anything I am saying, but I felt like I can do you some good here.
Next, I notice that a lot of your lands are either bounce lands or lands in which you can sacrifice them to get an additional mana for that turn. I am concerned with this style of play, because the bounce lands sort of equal out to the same amount of mana for the turn, and in some cases don't even move you ahead. Sacrifice the lands for extra mana sets you back. Allow me to explain:
- T3: You have two lands out. You tap both to add to your pool, then play Boros Garrison . The rest of the turn doesn't matter, we are merely focusing on land presence and mana potential.
- T4: You replay the land you just bounced last turn. Now you have a total of three lands that can produce a total of 4 mana.
The issue here is that you set yourself back on tempo on T3 to become caught up on T4. Rather than producing 3 mana on T3, you only produced 2; And for your efforts on T3, you are no better off on T4 than if you had just played a basic land.
Dormant Volcano and Karoo are even worse, because you have 16 of your 26 lands that contain specific subtypes, each one only being represented on 10 Plains and 8 Mountains. So if you have a Dormant Volcano in your hand but you don't have any lands with Mountain as their subtype, you literally can not play it. Even worse, it has to be an untapped land you return AND it still enters the battlefield tapped. So not only do you lose a land, you don't even get the mana from it and it's highly more restrictive than Boros Garrison .
Additionally, Temple of the False God literally does you no good if you get it out before you have five total lands. Shrine of the Forsaken Gods is better absolutely all around because at least it produces you something.
Now we need to discuss your "pay-to-play" lands; Crystal Vein , Dwarven Ruins & Ruins of Trokair . The issue here is that you may have immediate access to ramp, but you trade that for immediate downfall as you slip farther and farther behind because you no longer have lands on the battlefield. These cards should never go in any deck that doesn't have some means to return them, such as Crucible of Worlds / Ramunap Excavator or Wrenn and Six .
Dwarven Ruins and Ruins of Trokair for Heart of Ramos and Tooth of Ramos . This is because on T3 you can play your 3rd land and play an artifact to ramp with. On T4 when you play your fourth land, you now have 5 mana available and therefore are in ramp mode. You can also sac the artifact to generate another mana if need be, and it won't hurt your land base. These are under appreciated artifacts, and to be honest you don't need 26 lands in a 58 card deck. Yes, 58. Ajani and Mudhole are outside of your library.
Dormant Volcano and Karoo for Boros Signet and Boros Cluestone . Signet gets you two mana for the cost of one (Tapping two permanents equals out to 1 mana per permanent, but now you get one of each color) and Cluestone gets you one of any color, but also gives you draw options if you need it later on.
This sets you down to 22 lands, which in all of my playing of Oathrbeaker is ideal. This also increases your stones up from 4 into ~6. We will be working on this in a moment.
I get it, you want to blow up lands so your opponent can't play the game. But do you need 10 cards that do that? 11 with Ajani?
Cut out the following, for their listed reasons:
As mentioned before, you want more artifacts that produce mana. You currently have the following:
Now we still have four card slots open from before. We are sitting now at a total of six stones. We want eight. We will use two slots to add the following:
We now have 22 lands and 8 stones. 30 mana producing cards in a 58 card deck. This means you will SERIOUSLY ramp in Boros.
- Faithless Looting : Because it can be played twice, due to Flashback
- Dawn of Hope : Another 2 CMC permanent that can be used in conjunction with Ajani Vengeant 's -2 for card draw on non-specific colors of mana. Then you can also use it to create tokens with self-fulfilling conditions since they have lifelink. This means you don't have to rely on Ajani going down, and you can still progress the boardstate.
As for a win condition outside of Form of the Dragon , there is also Martial Coup . Since you are snuffing out all of your opponent's lands anyway, as well as their creatures, why not create a literal army of tokens that now stand unopposed?
You may also want to consider replacing Mudhole with something more viable. Perhaps Lightning Helix ? It burns and gets you life. Acts as another win condition, makes it harder for your opponent to win in the process as your life totals grow farther and farther apart, and plays nicely with the aforementioned Dawn of Hope .
This took me like 40 minutes, so I hope it helps.
6 months ago
9 months ago
SamsWrath thanks for your deck advice! Mox Opal is going in as soon as I have enough spare cash. At the moment it doesn’t benefit to remove Gauntlet of Power and Extraplanar Lens , but once I’ve included the artifact lands (for metalcraft) and some of the quick mana you have suggested, the benefits of those cards will be eroded sufficiently.
I will be keeping the ramp spells you suggest in mind. I am currently testing extra turn cards Last Chance and Final Fortune , and once I have decided if to keep them I will move on to those. What’s your thoughts on Treasonous Ogre to pay life for ramp?
I couldn’t warrant City of Traitors but Dwarven Ruins and Sandstone Needle are going in for sure. Crystal Vein I am going to pass on as I have never been left wanting more colourless as the deck has numerous ways of producing it.
Torch Courier doesn’t give this deck enough benefit to earn a slot. I would typically play the haste card when I am all set to win. As this is targeted haste, the goblin army can’t swing out, requiring more pieces to win. Also, it doesn’t synergise with sacking Krenko back to the command zone and recasting with infinite mana.
Some great suggestions dude, thank you!
9 months ago
I know they're pet cards but, Extraplanar Lens and Gauntlet of Power are actually not very fast but rather, kind of clunky. I'd toss in Mox Opal and potentially more red ramp spells such as Lotus Petal , Simian Spirit Guide , Rite of Flame , Desperate Ritual , Pyretic Ritual and Seething Song .
Torch Courier is another good way to give Krenko haste and doubles as a body for Krenko if he doesn't need the haste.
For all-around spell reduction Helm of Awakening is an excellent option!
If you add in more ramp I think you can reduce your total land count to 30-31 without issue.
10 months ago
You may be able to drop a few lands--especially if you add in the KCI combo. I tried to keep these suggestions as budget as possible but, a couple of them are in the $15-$20 range.
Some spells to consider:
- Words of Wind
- Long-Term Plans
- Krark-Clan Ironworks
- Mana Vault
- Paradox Engine
- Walking Ballista
- Artificer's Assistant
- Quicksmith Genius
Lands to Consaider:
10 months ago
Like SamsWrath said above, needs room for the Mox Diamond :P I wouldn't touch the Iso Scepter combo with 10ft pole though.
Dragon Fodder should %100 be Goblin Instigator. Gets you the same number of gobs but its reduceable via Warchief and is tutorable and copyable by Matron/Recruiter and Kiki. Then replace Krenko's Command with Goblin Chirurgeon. That'll lower the deck cmc, adds another combo enabler, and has some value for protecting Krenko.
Thorn of Amethyst might be worth it. Add to maybeboard?
I'd also just pull Hanweir Battlements. Its just so rare that you have Krenko mana + an open red source + this land untapped.
10 months ago
Krenko is hard to tune for cEDH because at his best he's probably still a 2.5-tier commander. I play Krenko as my "fair" deck but, I have given some though into making him faster. One thing I'm 100% sure of is that outside of a turn 1 wheel that has tons of ramp and nets another wheel, I see no way to get a turn 1 win with Krenko. Below are some of the cards I've considered that you don't currently have in your list.
- Add another chance for an extra turn with Warrior's Oath.
- You can take even more extra turns with Isochron Scepter + Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite. Add in something to untap an artifact and that would be bonkers!
- Dwarven Ruins is a not-as-good Sandstone Needle but, is still quite capable of helping with a Turn 2 Krenko.
- More 1cmc Goblins will give you more bodies, faster, and you're missing a few really good ones such as: Foundry Street Denizen, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Welder and Legion Loyalist.
- Goblin Instigator is another good 2cmc (1cmc with a reducer) for 2 1/1 Goblins.
- Mass Hysteria is probably the fastest and cheapest way to get haste for ALL of your gobos!
- The more Ramp the better because that's how you're going to drop Krenko Turn 1-2 and multiply your gobos fast! Find room for that Mox Diamond and also consider: Infernal Plunge, Desperate Ritual, Pyretic Ritual, Seething Song and Simian Spirit Guide.
- Draw helps a lot. You might also want to consider: Memory Jar, Reforge the Soul, Scroll Rack and Slate of Ancestry.
- More spell-cost reduction never hurt and in a tribal deck Urza's Incubator and Semblance Anvil could do some work.
- Staff of Domination to untap Krenko!
11 months ago
Don't forget Blasphemous Act too! And if you use Crucible of Worlds you can make use out of lands like Sandstone Needle and Dwarven Ruins, although if you run those Amulet of Vigor might be a nice slot for taplands. Not sure if that's ideal though since I don't see a consistent way to get all of those on the board in mono-red exactly but who knows. It's something perhaps worth considering.
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