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Disciple of Deceit
Creature — Human Rogue
Inspired - Whenever Disciple of Deceit becomes untapped, you may discard a nonland card. If you do, search your library for a card with the same converted mana cost as that card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
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Disciple of Deceit Discussion
1 month ago
Hey there I looked through your budget EDH decks and really like them. I've been trying to come up with a EDH and even a modern deck with my pet card at the moment Disciple of Deceit and adapted your list with some ideas of my own. Was wondering if you could give me some critique and criticism?
1 month ago
I enchant Disciple of Deceit with Aura of Dominion so I can tutor for multiple cards by paying and tapping Disciple of Deceit to untap Disciple of Deceit and use the inspired? My EDH group is saying no because the Disciple is not tapped and therefore cannot be tapped to do so. I say it's allowed because the activation cost is "(1), Tap an untapped creature you control" and the effect is "Untap enchanted creature." The effect doesn't say anything about the enchaned creature having to be tapped
2 months ago
One card I just remembered is Disciple of Deceit . If you enjoy using the Transmute mechanic for this deck, he transmutes a card from your hand every time he untaps.
3 months ago
I just read that cards with Aftermath like Driven / Despair have a CMC of 4 because all characteristics of the card are combined everywhere except on the stack. I read in some wiki that according to the rules this also applies to Fuse, eg. Far / Away.
I recently built a deck with Disciple of Deceit, which can transmute cards into other cards with the same CMC. Is it still possible to transmute Negate into Far (2 CMC) or do I have to use the CMC of Far / Away?
3 months ago
I'm glad Disciple of Deceit is on here, there's a lot you can do with that one.
I also am working on a Lightning Berserker deck with at least 50% lands. Seems to be doing alright, so far.
Anybody wanna compare notes?
3 months ago
If you're running Tree of Perdition, I suggest also running Triskaidekaphobia for the lols. Also, there are two other sweet infinite mill combos besides Mind crank and Guildmage/Ascension that are worth considering. Illusionist's Bracers + Tidewater Minion allows you to infinitely untap creatures you can use to mill your opponents. Deadeye Navigator can go infinite with Altar of the Brood if you have any creature that untaps lands on entering, like Cloud of Faeries + Palinchron + Peregrine Drake . The combo can also work if you have Sage's Row Denizen instead of the Altar since all of these are blue creatures. A struggle I had with my own deck is the lack of tutors. Since you're in UB, you can conveniently use any of the Transmute cards that can find your combo pieces if you feel like turning your deck into a more combo based one. Dimir Infiltrator + Muddle the Mixture + Shred Memory can all find you the Guildmage and Mindcrank (even Cloud of Faeries and Illusionist's Bracers if you end up running them) and Dizzy Spell can find Ascension and Altar. Another sweet card to consider is Disciple of Deceit which basically gives you a free Transmute on any non-land card in your hand whenever it untaps, allowing you to, ideally, search for anything. Now I don't know what your meta is like, but regardless board wipes are a must. Running your typical black board wipes like Damnation, Toxic Deluge, Decree of Pain, In Garruk's Wake, and Black Sun's Zenith is fine but you need ways to get rid of non creature permanents, a struggle for black. Cyclonic Rift + Nevinyrral's Disk are good for this.
5 months ago
landofMordor Thanks for the feedback.
Alms of the Vein is great in certain matchups, but IMO not good enough to mainboard. As you can see I have it in the SB here versus burn and to swap for Fiery Temper against decks without small creatures.
The synergy of Demigod of Revenge in this deck is with Disciple of Deceit, when you untap Diciple you put one god in the grave and get the other one to play for putting both (or more) on the field, or if you need Voldaren Pariah or any of the 5 CMC sideboard cards you get that the first activation, then on second activation put Pariah on the field with madness and get a new god. Demigod also has great synergy with self discard in general, and is awesomw against control since the cast trigger can't be countered. For me it has been super good.
Bomat Courier is a discard outlet and hand refiller that's also aggressive, plus he turns on our Skirsdag High Priest on demand and flips liliana heretic healer, it is also a very good card against Living End which is no the rise in modern. Vexing Devil is good early pressure, turns on skirsdag, flips liliana and comes back the same turn, and can be picked up with Grave Scrabbler for more pressure. This deck goes for burn/aggro and aims to pressure the life total fast, and the self sacrifice effects are an important part of the synergy with making sure there are creatures dying and put in the grave to recur.
So far in testing the copters, skirsdag and attacks have been enough to tap my stuff, but I'm considering adding a 1-off Cultivator's caravan or a 4th copter, you don't really want more than 1 vehicle in play though, so they are often bad topdecks which is why I run 3 and rely on looting and Diciple activations to find one. I used to run this with 4 Caravans and Asylum Seeker for crewing, but I like this version better since the copters doubles as a discard outlet.
5 months ago
I like the concept for the deck and I love Disciple of Deceit. However, it seems like the deck might have trouble closing out the game. Also, it seems weird that you run an amazing tutor in Disciple of Deceit but don't really have anything amazing to find. So, may I make a crazy suggestion: what about the Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry combo? They give you some good tutor targets, and you already run plenty of 2 mana cards. To fit them in, I might cut Psychotic Episode (seems underpowered) and maybe some Gravecrawlers or Prized Amalgam.