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|Journey into Nyx (JOU)||Uncommon|
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Disciple of Deceit
Creature — Human Rogue
Inspired - Whenever Disciple of Deceit becomes untapped, you may discard a nonland card. If you do, search your library for a card with the same converted mana cost as that card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
Disciple of Deceit Discussion
2 months ago
Silent Arbiter can prevent you from dying.
Scheming Symmetry becomes a one-sided tutor when you mill your opponent's card away.
2 months ago
MaStCu Hahaha, Yes! I would love to tell you how the deck plays, that discription isn't too informative :)!
Step 1: Typically, you try to get out Tallowisp asap, but if you don't think it will survive, wait until you can do both Step 1 and 2 at the same time.
Step 3: Cast a Spirit/Arcane spell, search your library for Shield of Duty and Reason . Enchant Tallowisp . Now that that's done, your Tallowisp has protection from everything except white. (Kill white players first because of that)
Step 4: Look around the table, find the most problematic commander. Cast a Spirit/Arcane, search you library for an answer.
Step 5: You can mostly just start making the rest of your opponents boards unable to attack, while finding Ethereal Armor . Keep in mind that if you need a cath all answer, Reprobation & Choking Restraints are your best bets.
You can also tutor up cantripping auras to make your spirits draw you a card, and give protection to your opponents creatures to make other auras fall off.
Hope this helps!
6 months ago
Disciple of Deceit is the best deck. It is too consistent to piece together combos to beat, and has efficient access to great removal, discard, countermagic, card draw, and hate.
pEDH in a nutshell
8 months ago
@LurkerInTheBush Disciple of Deceit , Nightveil Predator , Ascended Lawmage , Loyal Guardian , Mistmeadow Witch , Crackling Drake , a couple more im forgetting off the top of my head. You can find some examples of them in the compendium :)
9 months ago
I think I understand what you are trying to do now, essentially you want to make what is refered to as a toolbox deck. Thing is your sort of in the wrong colours, traditionally would be the primary colours of the toolbox. The GW Toolbox uses cards like Chord of Calling and Eldritch Evolution to fish out creature based answers. In there isn't really an equivelent, however you could try cards like Disciple of Deceit to fetch answers. However answering enchantments outside GW is difficult, the best options are probably Kiora's Dismissal or Drake Familiar...
Eidolon of the Great Revel can be played around by using cards like Biting Rain or Morsel Theft, basically any card which has an alternative cost or a cost reduction as the Eidolon only checks the converted mana cost, not the cost you actually paid. I made a half hearted attempt at a sort of toolbox here Grixis Toolbox, it isn't really efficient enough, but it might help you out.
What would help more though is just running the low cost removal and killing Monastery Swiftspear and Eidolon the turn your opponent plays them, or near after. Trying to play around someone elses deck dilutes what your own deck is able to do. There is an article on wizards pages which covers this very topic https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/reconstructed/zero-sixty-2012-03-26 (apologies the link wouldn't work) I'd suggest you give it a read...
If you still want to build a toolbox deck then I'd suggest dropping Red in favour of Green, between Black Green and Blue you should be able to answer near enough everything...
9 months ago
Flooremoji No, you cant lose a game with Rhystic Study when someone go infinite because it says "you MAY draw". And no, you cant tutor lands by discarding lands. It written in description of ability Disciple of Deceit.
11 months ago
CaptainGalvanic I personally don't like Necropolis Regent for the same reason I don't like Szadek, Lord of Secrets. It's just way too mana intensive for a conditional trigger upon combat damage which requires you to go through unblocked. Sure, an Invisible Stalker solves that problem, but it just costs too much mana to pull off since it involves switching from Stalker, to Szadek, to Sage, making this combo much slower than what I'm aiming to do in this deck. I don't think this sequencing is for me, but maybe it can work for you. My meta is semi-competitive so win-cons need to be faster and Sage combos do the opposite.
I've tried to refrain from equipment in this deck for more creature targets, so Heirloom Blade doesn't feel great in here especially since I don't have many tribal synergies as it is. It just doesn't seem consistent enough to use. Disciple of Deceit is an interesting suggestion, but it's less than ideal because I can only tutor for 2 CMC cards at best with it.
1 year ago
DangoDaikazoku You're probably right about Szadek being bad, but I still want another 2 card kill that doesn't involve Necrotic Ooze, since it's a common target for removal. I'll try using Necropolis Regent, since they are generally more cost effective, but I'll probably cut it later.
I notice you run a lot of tutor effects already, but some them are a hard to buy and non-repeatable, so might I suggest Heirloom Blade? If you have a sacrifice outlet you can, for example, use Avatar of Woe to fetch Phage the Untouchable. As a bonus, the blade works around effects that prevent or punish searching libraries, with the downside that your opponents see part of your deck. Disciple of Deceit also seems pretty good, since it's effect is cheap and repeatable, but is another card that requires a certain amount of build-around.
Disciple of Deceit occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%