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Destructive Tampering Discussion
1 month ago
Thank you for all of your input! I will definitely add at least another land into the deck. i'll probably add another Rootbound Crag and see how that works. The ability to come in untapped is huge, especially after side boarding in my higher cmc creatures.
Although I do wish Insult and/or Destructive Tampering were 2 cmc, that would probably be way too overpowered. Also, casting either of those spells is to win the game on turn 4 or 5, so I don't think 3 is to steep of a price to pay. I currently have kept in Insult due to it being a little more versatile by not being useless when the opponent has no blockers. Also, Insult can work as semi removal just because of how many creatures would need to block one of mine in the fear of pump spells with trample.
Glad you like Aethertorch Renegade. Do you think it deserves a sideboard/mainboard spot? Also, do you think decoction module is too slow for this deck? i've considered side boarding it, but considered how opponents will probably side in artifact removal, it would not provide much of a benefit, especially with Woodweaver's Puzzleknot in play. While on that note, I also applaud you foreign able to run U/G. I found making a deck super difficult due to Glassblower's Puzzleknot making that one less energy which can be critical when it comes to pummeler. Also, the inability to do damage to the face seemed hard, but the control aspect of it definitely has a high appeal especially in certain metas.Thank you for reminding me about Naturalize! I forgot it also takes care of enchantments which was one of the main reasons I had Appetite in the sideboard instead of Abrade.
1 month ago
I agree that Servant of the Conduit is still essential to the function of the deck, but you still need two other lands to put her on the battlefield. I can see you've put a fair amount of thought into the land count, which was my original worry, and I completely understand wanting to run the deck a little lean to keep the action coming. That's where I think Sheltered Thicket can help as a hedge bet on the land count. But I can see where you are trying to run fast as well as lean, so the tapped land may not fit your style.
I had not seriously considered Aethertorch Renegade, but I can definitely see that guy doing some serious work in this deck. As you mention, he comes in with plenty of energy, provides another body, and has some very useful energy abilities.
I think Destructive Tampering could be useful in the maindeck, although its 3-CMC cost may prohibit stringing together a couple more pump spells along with it (but Insult has the same drawback). The ability to prevent a bunch of ground creatures from blocking can win you the game, and its second mode to destroy an artifact will come in useful; I've been seeing plenty of Azor's Gateway Flip, Thaumatic Compass Flip, and Treasure Map Flip both online and at my LGS. Speaking of artifact removal, I have swapped out my Appetite for the Unnatural for Naturalize in the sideboards for all the decks I was running it in. In a deck with a lean land count like Pummeler, the one-lower CMC is usually significant. It's a great end-of-their-turn play against all the white removal: Cast Out, Ixalan's Binding, and Baffling End.
1 month ago
djnewellmit First of all, thank you so much for responding! I would like to apologize for how long it has taken me to respond. I was typing up a thoughtful response, but it got cleared away for a second time. Now I think I may just try to address many of your points in more than 1 comment. Thank you for addressing the mana base. I am aware it is low, but I have also been considering boosting it. I understand having a low land count makes mulligans more likely, but I have chosen on the route of having more gas in my deck because (as you know from having a pummeler deck yourself) there are certain ways you expect turns 2 and 3 to go. Because of that, mulligans happen more often due to either flooding/mana screwed but also having the wrong proportions of creatures and pump spells. In my experience, Servant of the Conduit is the main reason why this deck is able to work. In my opinion, it is often as good as or better than Attune was. Now, because they were both green, they were almost always played together in the same deck. But now I'm going on a tangent... As I was saying, Servant of the Conduit is awesome because of the ability to ramp into Bristling Hydra or playing an on curve Lathnu Hellion allows for a turn 3 without pummeler to still have a string impact.
Both Longtusk Cub and Aether Chaser are good cards. Cub was an amazing card in the meta. That os actually one of the main reasons I chose to not have it. In the meta, all sideboards needed to have an answer to an on curve cub and Hazoret the Fervent. Also, cub does not come into play with energy. Playing a card that create energy when it ETB is more important in this deck just because we want to be able to have the energy before combat so we have the possibility to pump pummeler (or another of our energy sync's). Aether Chaser is a great card in this deck. I just found that I wanted more pump spells and that was a card that left the list. I also had another card that I felt competed with it which was Aethertorch Renegade. As I just mentioned earlier, coming into play and immediately making energy is crucial to me in this deck and coming into play with 4 energy is the most i have seen from a card, especially a 3 drop that can stay back to block at the very least. That second part about dealing 6 to the face is just a beautiful bonus. Both of those cards may come back to the deck at some point.
I do want Heroic Intervention in the deck somewhere. That is why I have it in the Maybeboard. The amount of removal in this meta that is not just spot removal is very high. Not just that, but it could work as a semi combat trick with all of the different pump spells. I just do not know what to take out. I was considering taking out the 1 Blossoming Defense from the sideboard as well as 1 Scrapheap Scrounger. I mainly have Scrapheap in the sideboard to be ale to put in of decks with sweepers, but needing the black mana to come back requires either Servant of the Conduit or Aether Hub. I also have Destructive Tampering in the maybeboard and considered switching it with Insult. Insult is better against decks with a low amount of creatures and decks that will turn all of their creatures sideways every turn while Destructive Tampering can allow for all of our creatures to swing in against a token deck when they thought they may have been safe. What are your thoughts?
I am defiantly siding out my Pummelers in a good portion of the games because of how much removal there is for both creatures AND artifacts. That is where the bigger creatures in my side board come into play.
Aethersphere Harvester is such a good card! I really want to get it. It's just a bit expensive at this point for the sideboard. I am planning on getting it soon; I just need to know what to replace it with. Probably the rest of Scrapheap Scroungers. Lifecrafter's bestiary does not do enough for 3 cmc in this deck in my opinion. We'd rather be putting down creatures or something that produces energy. The goal is also to have as little artifacts as needed after side boarding to have their artifact removal be mostly dead in hand. That's the hope at least, lol.
Wow. Long reply. Sorry about that. I do want to thank you again for all the advice! I forgot about about a few of the cards and changes you had mentioned. I will defiantly look into tweaking the deck and incorporating some of your suggestions.
5 months ago
Nice deck! Thanks for sharing!
Destructive Tampering might work perfectly on turn 6, if something goes wrong. Also, it's versatile.
5 months ago
Rugged Highlands is probably the best common tapland for your colors.
Goblin Bushwhacker is insane with tokens, and most decks that run Reckless Bushwhacker should run both.
Your creatures are generally terrible. There's no other way I can put it. You're playing a bunch of 2/2's and 2/1's for 2 mana with slight upside, and 3/2's for 3 mana with the same. Kashi-Tribe Warriors stands out because it's a 5-mana 2/4. There are so many 5-drops that are better (ex. Stampeding Elk Herd). Alternatively, you could skip the 5-drops and just play more 1-drops and 2-drops (Wild Nacatl, Kird Ape, Burning-Tree Emissary stand out).
Life Goes On is a sideboard-only card that you bring in against burn decks. Never mainboard it because it's generally bad.
You describe Massive Raid as a generally solid burn spell. Outnumber does the same thing for , except it can't go to your opponent's face. And if you want to talk about burn spells that actually deserve to be called "solid", Lightning Bolt is where you should be starting.
You're a green aggro deck in Noble, therefore Rancor is probably good in your deck.
I wonder if Stampede Driver would be good in this deck.
6 months ago
Cuts I'd make.
Storm Fleet Arsonist Storm Fleet Aerialist Daring Saboteur Wily Goblin Talas Scout Talas Air Ship Talas Explorer Rishadan Cutpurse Prosperous Pirates Marauding Looter Rishadan Airship Lookout's Dispersal Torrent of Souls Pilfered Plans Crash Through Destructive Tampering Grave Upheaval Beacon of Unrest Magus of the Will Conspiracy Xenograft
With all these cuts you will have enough land for the deck.
7 months ago
As for Magmatic Chasm, I think its a good thing to close the game, but it could be replaced by Destructive Tampering, for it's more versatile and you can afford to pay the extra one mana as you will play that card on the later stage of the game. I would probably play 2 if you dont have a creature buff card, but if you play the Trial of Solidarity package, you might want to run cards like Crash Through
8 months ago
I like Fiery Temper but I'm only using cards from Amonkhet and Kaladesh blocks, so the deck can be used and upgraded until 2018. Abrade is a good card as well, but I have Destructive Tampering in the sideboard, which has the option to remove any non-flying blockers.