Curse of Chains
Enchantment — Aura
At the beginning of each upkeep, tap enchanted creature.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Curse of Chains Discussion
4 weeks ago
Bring to Light may be pretty good, Fight to the Death , when revealed, serves to say "wanna make a big attack? ban plan." Flower / Flourish or Safewright Quest is good two-color mana fixing. Putrefy and Mortify are both pretty strong. Thrash / Threat is pretty all right creature removal if Niv is out. I am partial to Archon of Valor's Reach - I just like the card. Armadillo Cloak is def all right if Nivvy's your main wincon. Artifact Mutation and Aura Mutation are awesome, as is Hull Breach . I know one of my friends has a Kresh the Bloodbraided deck that would be utterly demolished by a Backlash . Bedevil is absurdly versatile removal. Blightning has a special place in my heart for taking any deck that doesn't know how to draw cards directly out of the game. Mostly a 60 cards, 20 life thing tho. Boros Charm can fizzle a removal spell, or it can make Niv into a really big meat stick. Burning-Tree Shaman and Cindervines are absolute murder for spellslinger decks. Casualties of War might help with those planeswalkers you seem to want to make disappear. Cauldron Haze is an... unconventional way to eat a removal spell. Clan Defiance is pretty all right, though it is an X spell that doesn't just kill a player directly. Countersquall is a good not- Negate , as is Dovin's Veto . Curse of Chains is a cool removal spell. Deathsprout is removal and ramp. A bit costly but Murder and Rampant Growth combined (minus one mana) is worth considering for casuals like me. Debtors' Knell can be a nice finisher.
Defiler of Souls is one of my favorite cards of all time. I just love playing colors and I like turning downsides into upsides.
Despark and Deputy of Detention (not to mention the D-Sphere itself) is pretty good removal. Destructive Revelry is pretty good removal as well. Dimir Doppelganger would fuck a reanimator deck six ways from Sunday. Divinity of Pride is a big, lifelinking threat. Djinn Illuminatus is sneakily very strong. Imagine duplicating all your removal spells as many times as you bother to pay for them. Domri's Ambush is even more good removal (this time creature removal). Dragonlair Spider is just quite good at making tokens. Dreadbore kills two relevant types. Dromoka's Command is sweet removal but not many of its other options are relevant. Dueling Grounds is Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist (or Mirri is Dueling grounds- whatever). Both are awesome pillow fort. Escape to the Wilds draws cards. The color-matters auras from Eventide and Shadowmoor are strong with Niv and also on-theme.
Fossil Find alluded to graveyard order... in a 2008 set... huh.
Identity Crisis just discards your opponent's... everything. Ionize is a pretty all right counterspell. Justice Strike , another pet card of mine, is just very a flavorful removal spell. Mindleech Mass is crazy cool. Mirari's Wake is a really conventionally strong card. Mistmeadow Witch is more expensive and more timely Soulherder (fizzles removal!). Mnemonic Betrayal is just a gem. Mystic Snake and Frilled Mystic are both counterspells. Necrogenesis makes tokens and screws up reanimation. Palliation Accord is pretty freaking pillow forty. Pillory of the Sleepless , Anguished Unmaking , and Vindicate are more solid Orzhov removal. Plasm Capture isn't great, I don't think, but it feels like a card that has some wild stories attached to it, don'tcha think? Rakdos's Return seems like another really fun spell. I want to make a RB casual Rack deck. Silumgar's Command is a good card. Thought Erasure is a perfectly suitable discard spell. Trygon Predator is good. Wheel of Sun and Moon ensures that every card in your deck is just a few Niv triggers away.
And BAM, I've looked through every two-color card in Magic. There we go. That's what stood out to me, but I find that many players are more competitive than I am and therefore have different definitions of what a good card is. Feel free to take some or none of my advice. All would likely prove disastrous for your deck- a lot of the cards I suggested were removal.
4 months ago
Hmmm perhaps its mana cost should've been . Its ability gets better and better with each commander tax though :)
Ready thine Pacifism and Lawmage's Binding and Demotion and Luminous Bonds and Curse of Chains and Sleep Paralysis ! We're going to make our enemies groan! (maybe if we're really mean we'll run some Abduction or Control Magic )
8 months ago
Flooremoji I think you're right. It pains me to get rid of one of the cards that inspired the idea, but it's just removal fodder at best in most matchups. One mana to get rid of a three mana card that doesn't do anything but possibly get bigger isn't a great trade-off from my end.
Demarge I went ahead and looked at the mtg goldfish meta page as well. Humans is the most popular deck, which uses a ton of creatures, but it's pretty much the only one, yeah. Right now, decks are very non-creature spell oriented. I think Gideon Jura would fit if I can justify his being a finisher for the deck. Tamiyo, the Moon Sage can at least keep lands and troublesome artifacts tapped down, and serves as draw power when enough creatures are tapped down. If you had to choose one, which would you choose? I'm leaning toward Gide on for the 6/6 indestructible for 5 mana.
aswordforthefallen As Demarge pointed out, the bulk of the decks right now aren't going to be focused on using creatures, so using creatures for them is a good way to go, I think. Hunted Phantasm is a good way to ensure that I can still get value from Verity Circle . That does incur the question for whether I should go wide with temporary effects that hit multiple creatures like Downpour and Feeling of Dread , or whether I should keep a smaller number of creatures consistently being tapped with enchantments like Curse of Chains . As for all-around value planeswalkers, what do you have in mind? I see Narset, Parter of Veils , Teferi, Time Raveler , and Teferi, Hero of Dominaria used a good deal.
Gidgetimer I don't think Pickles is what I want to go for. It's a neat way to work tap-down control, but I'd rather focus on cards that work specifically with tapping rather than abusing the morph mechanic. Thanks for the suggestion, though! It is a really interesting deck.
Funkydiscogod Quiet contemplation is a really good fit for the deck. The only problem I have with it is that by freeing up space for more traditional cards, I move away from my preferred aesthetic. Part of the problem here is that I've chosen a really inefficient form of control. For the one mana I could use on Gigadrowse , I could spend it on Path to Exile . What cards would you suggest to complement Quiet Contemplation while staying true to having tap-down effects being the primary method of control? Opt , for example, is a one mana draw card that can turn into a two-mana Frost Breath hybrid. I can't think of much else other than draw cards, though, that fit in the control scheme that don't remove the need for tap-down effects entirely. Do you think Frost Titan is too expensive to play, or is its built-in protection enough to warrant using it at 6 mana?
Thank you so much, everyone that's contributed! It means a lot to me that you're helping me out. I've had this idea for the longest time, but I just haven't been able to make it work by myself. You people rock!
8 months ago
Flooremoji those are great suggestions! I really like enchantments, too. Curse of Chains and Narcolepsy would be great answers to the problem at hand. What planeswalkers would you suggest? Gideon Jura works to blow up tapped creatures as well as a beatstick himself. Do you think Gideon's Avenger is a viable card, or just removal fodder?
8 months ago
Well, I like Curse of Chains and Narcolepsy as draw with Verity Circle , while also getting rid of the creature permenantly. Sleep effects can act as Fog s, which lets you experiment with a sort of Turbo-Fog stratagy that uses tap spells, extra draw artifacts and VC to draw enough cards to potencially win with Nexus of Fate and Temple Bell . Forbidden Orchard , while not great, is probably the best option for beating control, aside from somthing like Boseju + a Gain 2 life every turn card.
I like Pwks as a potential win con, because they aren't vulnerable to Creature removal.
Hope this helps!
1 year ago
Hey there! Your deck needs a bit of work, it looks like it's running a lot that has fallen out of favor lately. It needs streamlining, and some better cantrips too. First off, Ponder , Preordain , Gitaxian Probe and Brainstorm should replace Portent , Opt , Peek , Thought Scour , and Mental Note . It'll give you much better filtering and allow you to dig for answers more efficiently. Second, if you're running mainboard fliers Stormbound Geist is much more resilient than Sultai Scavenger , and easier to get out too. Warped Landscape isn't amazing in this format.. 18 Lands is correct, but it's best to run more fetches to pump out Anglers quicker (3 Terramorphic Expanse , 3 Evolving Wilds , 1 Ash Barrens and a 9/2 Split for basics, Islands being the 9). Gush makes your late-game so much more powerful, and the synergy with Foil is comparable to Force of Will , so you'll want 3 of each. Snuff Out is also important for your removal suite, which should also include a copy of Chainer's Edict and 2 Echoing Decay s. One or two extra Augur of Bolas never hurt anyone. Finally, you might also want to run Curse of Chains and Dispel .
If you need a resource to check what U/B Delver is running atm, you should look at MTGGoldfish's Pauper Meta review, it'll show you the top-tier lists and give you an idea what you should run.
1 year ago
I think you can go two directions with this deck Option 1: Be more aggressively oriented, really leaning on Seeker of the Way . In that build you would put in delver, more cantrips, probably Augur of Bolas and then run cheap removal like Snap and Sunlance along with Feeling of Dread for spicey tempo. Probably would want to run more basic islands to enable Gush + Foil Option 2: I like this option better, which is keep building around the azorius theme. Add Deputy of Acquittals for the nice Spellstutter Sprite impression with removal spells, maybe cut Gush and Foil or run fewer because they make the mana awkward, maybe play Steel of the Godhead . Still don't love Deft Duelist or Lawmage's Binding in this version because they're a little too slow, I liked Curse of Chains when it was in though.