Crimson Hellkite

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Crimson Hellkite

Creature — Dragon

Flying

(X), Tap: Crimson Hellkite deals X damage to target creature. Spend only red mana this way.

akki007 on The New Masters

7 years ago

So I love dragons, and you have my upvote because I loved the Goblin Kingdom story! My Dragon Deck evolved a lot over the years,

from my original: I am the Dragonlord
to an edh version (because no one in my playgroup liked me ripping them with dragons): Welcome to Kher!
to another 60 card version (again, because no one in my EDH playgroup liked me ripping them with dragons): Dragonlord's Return

so knowing all of that, here's my advice:
1) Thunderbreak Regent is awesome!! a 4-drop "don't touch my dragon overlords" card that really helps you keep your opponent down
2) Dragonlord's Servant fits your deck's storyline really well, as one of the goblins of the old kingdom who betrayed his kind to side with the winners!!
3) I'm not a big fan of Crimson Hellkite, Dragon Tyrant, or Furyborn Hellkite (the first two because of that ridiculous mana investment, and the third because of the lack of protection. I ran him in a bloodthirst deck, and you wouldn't believe the agony of watching this 12/12 get Pacifism'ed. "I'm a huge dragon...and I want to go pet the bunny instead of kill it." aggravating to no extent...granted, should you include Thunderbreak Regent, this would be reduced, but even then, most would be willing to take the 3 instead of the 12)
4) removing those three dragons with the ones you were considering would give you dragons that always do something when they hit the field... and Predator Dragon for Voracious Dragon I think is a matter of preference and game plan - if you want to interact more with your opponent's cards, then Voracious Dragon can kill a lot of stuff. However, if you are really in the mood to just keep beating face, damned be the opponents creatures, then Predator Dragon would probably suit your needs.
5) this is more of a personal thing, and you may or may not agree with it, but I almost never want to hard cast my dragons for mana via Mountains or Seething Song. I prefer Quicksilver Amulet. If you are interested, I would recommend doing a 3/1 or a 2/2 split with Seething Song.

Hope this has helped somewhat!! Good luck commanding your dragons!! :)

GoldGhost012 on [Community Discussion]: Modern Chat

8 years ago

I don't think so. Training Grounds can't reduce a cost to less than 1 generic mana. This is one of its Gatherer rulings:

"Training Grounds can reduce the amount you pay for a creature's activated ability cost that includes X. For example, Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief has an activated ability that costs XBB. If you control Training Grounds and you activate the ability with X equal to 5, you'll have to pay only 3BB. This is true even if the ability states that X must be paid with a certain color of mana, as Crimson Hellkite's ability does."

So I'd imagine that if you paid X=1 for 1 counter, then you'd still have to pay 1 generic mana. But for X=2 or higher, you can use Training Grounds to reduce the cost.