Craterize

Sorcery

Destroy target land.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (6)

Tzefick on None

3 years ago

Ah... so we're back with the Swords :)

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Dimir Sword

The player exile from hand ability is very reminiscent of Sword of Feast and Famine. I would suggest something different. I know Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of War and Peace both grant the controller life, but then again Sword of Light and Shadow is a bit boring and War and Peace is not much better. Perhaps yours could be messing with someone's graveyard?

The token copy is a bit tricky as it can either be incredibly powerful or rather weak depending on what creatures that player has available.

Gruul Sword

This card is interesting. It's borderline OP by playing both swarm control and land ramp. Clearing the path to keep hammering in the damage and ramp by getting rid of chump blockers and making the equipped creature buffed enough to content with anyone else.

I like it and it seems controlled and fair. It'll be a bitch to fight against for token decks in multiplayer, as one hit to one of the neighbors (willing or unwilling) is likely going to clear your army.

Selesnya Sword

I'll pull the plug on a 3rd Sword granting life... that's not very interesting.

The exile all graveyards is a tech option but one that is generally only applicable once, and then it's rather mediocre. Additionally both white and green has options to bring stuff back from the graveyard, so getting rid of their own seems a bit counter productive.

I feel this suggestion is definitely lackluster.

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Gruul Sword

Straight land destruction on a repeatable trigger is spelling trouble. If you restricted it to non-lands AND replaced it, it could possibly be balanced - ala Ghost Quarter.

In OG Magic, land destruction was seldom a 3 CMC mana spell with Molten Rain and delved more into a 4 CMC mana spell for the most time like Craterize. I don't think that should be the precedent to set for these triggers.

Returning a land card from graveyard to the hand is nifty but does kinda target a niche of players - those that can afford fetch lands. Most players don't have lands in their graveyard as a rule, except those that plays fetch lands and those that mills - either by their own hand or by an opponent's.

I do hope WotC prints more functional reprints of Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse that are slow fetch lands but affordable. However so far they have been playing coy with granting these cards at common / uncommon. And the Prismatic Vista which only fetches basic lands but does it untapped is just as expensive as the fetch lands - despite the latter's ability to grab Dual lands or Dual land-esque cards with subtypes.

I feel like this should be considered when designing these cards. How easy is it to get the benefit of these triggers? How niche is this effect?

Dimir Sword

Simple and useful. The token effect is a little niche but if it can copy any creature of 3 CMC or less on the board (and not just that opponent's creatures) I think it should be possible to find some value somewhere.

And forcing a Cruel Edict on the defending player is quite powerful. In most colors it would make more sense to block the attacking creature, but in Dimir colors your creature is likely to have evasion - thus granting it flavorful more power to Dimir creatures.

I like it.

Selesnya Sword

This went pretty much where I would expect it to go. One upping Sword of Body and Mind by giving the token a keyword and providing creature removal instead of mill.

I can't really say I disapprove of it, but it does feel "safe". Not particularly interesting.

The fight ability would seem more flavorful on the Gruul sword (and it's also where I placed it when I made my attempt) but it is interesting when you can combine Selesnya's ability to make their creatures indestructible and fighting without losing. Fight also makes a keyword like deathtouch very interesting as a removal option for other colors.

Again it's not bad, it's just a bit safe.

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Dimir Sword

Isn't it a bit backwards to exile an opponent's graveyard and THEN create a token of a creature in a graveyard? I suppose it's a way to force a choice.

It is however a bit broken on turn 4 to get a token of Agent of Treachery after you just discarded it yourself.

Either a CMC restriction or just granting you the ability to cast a creature from a graveyard with "You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell." to fix the balance on that a little.

Or it exiles a single card from a graveyard, if a creature you create a token of it. That means it's a single use. You can still set it up, but it's not repeatable.

Gruul Sword

I'm a bit confused that there's no may trigger here. This sword basically begs to never be used against an opponent with less than 6 cards in hand - or a way for you to utilize them being forced to draw cards (Notion Thief, Underworld Dreams).

The ability to snatch a creature card from your entire library and Pod that right into play also seems really broken.

I don't think the drawbacks on this when it's good (5 to 12 cards discarded) outweighs or equals the benefits. However when it's bad (like 0 to 3 cards bad) you really don't want to attack.

That's a really awkward spot for a Sword to be in. And as you said yourself it is likely OP.

Interesting design though. Alas a bit too scalable.

Selesnya Sword

Creating 2+ tokens with relevant subtypes AND fetching any land from your deck onto the field tapped... I foresee that a lot of Gaea's Cradle players and Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth players will be sure to get a copy or two.

Well you're not wrong on your own assessment :)

If you want to make an attempt that could more realistically see print, I would suggest you look through the existing Swords and try to limit the abilities to something that is not that scalable and more constant. Instead of being variables that can scale, make it do this particular thing and nothing more, nothing less.

Keep in mind that the ability should be useful and beneficial for most colors. It's okay if it fits better into one color or color pair than others but all should have some benefit of it. Like Sword of Fire and Ice grants card draw, which White and partially Red hungers for, especially in Commander, and is usually seen as "better" in those colors because it covers a weakness that color / color pair has.

BOXES_O_MOXES on Straight outta the Gutter [PAUPER EDH]

5 years ago

EDIT: Out (1) Craterizein (1) Icefall.

DuTogira on Modern Horizon

5 years ago

PlatinumOne "'modern counterspells cost 3 mana, or 2 mana with a downside' and 'wotc is anti-land destruction', I'd have to see sources before I believe those."

Bro... do you even play modern? Even the lands that blow up other lands either replace the destroyed land with a basic ( Ghost Quarter ) or have a cost of at least to activate. Tectonic Edge is an exception, but that qualifies more as "land management" than "land destruction" considering that you have to leave your opponent with at least 3 lands. Smallpox / Boom come in at , but they're symetrical, and Assassin's Trophy replaces the destroyed land with a basic (which sort of defeats the point), so again, not exactly in the spirit of "wotc supports carte-blanche land destruction for 2 mana". Fulminator Mage lets you destroy non-basics for and Cryoclasm / Blood Moon / Choke are all hate cards against certain kinds of lands, but again your opponent gets around it by playing not the kind of land you're hating on, so it's not "true" land destruction. True land destruction (of the "Destroy target land. That's it." variety) TYPICALLY comes in at with cards like Craterize , Creeping Mold , and Avalanche Riders , but Molten Rain and Rain of Tears do exist at . Even with that, modern doesn't have any COMPETITIVE lists built around pure land destruction, which should tell you something about the support (or lack thereof) that WotC has been giving land destruction as a strategy compared with other strategies since 8th edition.

As for counter-spells, the first counter magics you can play which can target ANYTHING (meaning aren't faced with some restriction such as Spell Pierce , Spell Snare , or Stubborn Denial which all fit the slot) are Mana Leak , Remand , Delay , Logic Knot and their ilk in the slot. The ONLY exception to this is Mana Tithe , but that's in white and sees next to no modern play, even in U/W control.
The first point blank "counter target spell and it goes to the yard" spells come in at with cards like Cancel , Dissolve , Dissipate , and their ilk.

If you would still like a source, here is mtgtop8's modern breakdown, which you will notice features no land destruction, and exactly 0 decks which use any "unconditional counter spells" which cost or less. The reason is that Land Destruction isn't competitively viable, and no carte blanche counters exists for less than ! If they did, the modern community would have found them by now, but instead, we find that WotC doesn't support these concepts and has been very careful not to print any cards that violate these patterns!

Welcome to modern by the way.

Sal123 on Goblin Modern

5 years ago

Use Goblin Guide it is OP. Do you really need Bazaar Trader and Abrade? Molten Rain is better than Craterize. Put in 4 Goblin Grenade. Put in 4 Smash to Smithereens. Instead of Bolt of Keranos I would run Magma Jet or Lava Spike.

Gidgetimer on Twincast Ruling

6 years ago

Please link all cards in your question using double brackets.

Craterize

Twincast

Twincast only copies the spell and lets you choose new targets for the copy. It neither counters the original, nor allows you to choose new targets for the original. You will be able to target one of your opponents lands and destroy it, but the land targeted by the original will still be destroyed too.

as923x on Melek, Izzet Paragon

7 years ago

I liked your deck build and it gave me a few new ideas. I currently trying to build the same deck. Here are my thoughts:

Shatter and Shattering Pulse are great cards in this deck. There is nothing like clearing everyone else's artifacts with 2 mana. Demolish also has great potential costing 2 more mana but you could choose to instead destroy everyone else's land. On that note having Craterize, Melt Terrain and even Peak Eruption flipped on top of your library will devastate your opponents. These plays however will definitely not let you slip under the radar and you will be everyone's target.

If you can budget them in Volcanic Island and Madblind Mountain are also great choices for lands.

Here's a few creature's I am thinking about having in my deck: Young Pyromancer chump blockers help.Nivmagus Elemental for when Time Ebb and others are in my hand. Nivix Cyclops might help for top decking a ton of cheap spells. Spellheart Chimera an obvious add with flying, IMO. Kiln Fiend could be fantastic with Fling.Mercurial Chemister helps to draw cards. Opaline Unicorn and Burnished Hart for mana ramp. Galvanoth but only if the deck runs a lot of scry and big spells. (That is most likely too many creatures but with Fling in your hand or on top of the library opponents might think twice about how they block.)

This deck also has some infinite combos you don't have (I think): 1.Enter the Infinitewith either Laboratory Maniac AND Omniscience or Just play Inner Fire. 2.Laboratory Maniacwith either Paradigm Shift or Thought Lash.3.Omniscience with Tamiyo, the Moon Sage4. Isochron Scepter with Final Fortune AND Sundial of the Infinite(please note these are untested)

Other great cards for this deck: High Tide Fork Drain Power Mystic Remora

This is my first post. I hope that I can help others the way y'all have me on this site. I really hope my cards display correctly.

Sintaxe feel free to message me.