(2): Until end of turn, Chimeric Sphere becomes a 2/1 Construct artifact creature with flying.
(2): Until end of turn, Chimeric Sphere becomes a 3/2 Construct artifact creature without flying.
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Chimeric Sphere Discussion
2 years ago
Wow. You are so, so wrong. Many times.
Let's start with the fact that this thread was started prior to the Hour of Devastation finally. We already were arguing that Bolas was a superior opponent before he showed us just how impressively true that is.
To argue his powers are "just a better version of theirs" is a fallacy. He did use the same magic types or the perfect counters to their magic types in his battle with the Gatewatch (With the exception of Liliana, who he didn't actually combat), and he did so with more skill than they did in the cases where he "copied" them, that would be correct to say. However, he did so not because that is all he can do, but because he very specifically wanted to defeat the Gatewatch in that way. He wanted them scattered and doubting themselves, for what purpose is unknown. He is an Elder Dragon, which grants him enormous power. His power doesn't come from his skill or magic, but from his cunning, precaution, and planning.
Karn is not the Legacy. He is one of twenty-two pieces of the Legacy, most of which aren't useful unless they are united (Many people don't realize that such masterpieces as Juju Bubble and Chimeric Sphere are pieces of the Legacy). In that case, they become useful only to create a powerful collection of white mana specifically for killing Yawgmoth. That is it. Karn is merely a silver golem, which is mostly only useful for time travel, except he has no machine to make use of that.
He is of course a planeswalker, and pre-mending, that allowed him to create his own plane and send out the Mirari, which created an unreasonable amount of problems by merely existing and traveling, despite being merely a probe. But post-mending, his Planeswalker's Spark really only lets him travel the multiverse. He didn;t even escape the threat of Phyrexian compleation alone, it was thanks to the small group which went to rescue him from Phyrexia's Core giving him one of their sparks, the force of which expunged the Glistening Oil from him. Without that, it was very close to fully compleating him into the Phyrexian patriarch that the Praetors wanted him to be.
Yeah, Karn was present when Yawgmoth died, because he was part of the Legacy, and that was why he was there. Being manipulated by more-or-less sheer coincidence to be turned into a cog in a machine with the express purpose to destroy one specific being, no matter how powerful that being is, doesn't make the cog terribly impressive. Or at least, it doesn't lend said cog the credibility in facing off against a foe who has manipulated cogs in innumerable other similar machines, at least two of which he has now personally defeated as part of putting them in yet another machine.
And to your last random, nonsense point, he was killed Pre-Mending, not post. The person that you claim killed him was more or less just a distraction for something else to kill him, and it was only his body that was killed, as his mind was separated in part so he could subvert a situation like this without major problem, which he did exactly as he expected.
As it stands, Bolas has never really been defeated. Some of his plans have been stopped, but Bolas lives for contingencies. Any failed plans become the groundwork for his backup plans upon backup plans. He calculates every risk and anticipates every mistake. Yes, he could be defeated, in very few, very specific situations that are already handicapped against him -- which is a huge give -- but to say without question that any character could actually defeat Nicol Bolas is not a claim that can be made confidently given the information we have.
2 years ago
When a creature stops being a creature all equipment will "fall off" (not legal targets) and many auras will also die.