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Creature — Troll
At the beginning of your upkeep, exile a creature card from your graveyard. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Charnel Troll. Otherwise, sacrifice it.
, Discard a creature card: Put a +1/+1 counter on Charnel Troll.
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Charnel Troll Discussion
1 week ago
@Flooremoji the only reason I don't use Charnel Troll is because I dont want to empty out my graveyard. The more creatures in my graveyard the stronger some of my monsters get. Plus if Charnel Troll is out and has been used I won't be able use cards like Undergrowth Scavenger , Varolz, the Scar-Striped , Molderhulk , Disentomb , Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord . While the troll is a very good card, it over all would be counter productive to a larger number of cards in this deck.
2 months ago
The original idea was kind of a budget Golgari deck. All the value in this list is in the removal and the lands essentially. I currently own a more budget version.
2 months ago
2 months ago
Thanks for your comment Argy. Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
It's not a pure aggro deck, but it's quite rapid. Those Pelt Collectors are a real pain to try and deal with. Turn one Pelt Collector, turn two Glowspore Shaman means I can swing for two damage on turn two, then playing any of the three drops means I can swing for a further six on turn three. I can reliably deal lethal damage in five turns this way.
If that doesn't work, the game then transposes into a mid-range grind, as you pointed out, and this deck is good in that regard, too. The Midnight Reapers, Vraska, Golgari Queens and Izoni, Thousand-Eyed all provide excellent card advantage. The Find half of Find / Finality and Gruesome Menagerie also grant excellent value - two or three creatures returned for one card can generally overpower spot removal. Gruesome Menagerie in particular, when it goes off, can win games. Control's best response to this deck is a board wipe on turn four or five, and after that they're left tapped out and unable to counter Gruesome Menagerie, which just laughs at board wipes. Even if my opponent plays a board wipe afterwards, I'm still trading one card for one card, plus I get those juicy ETB triggers so even in that scenario I'm ahead. It's a brilliant card, the only question is how many.
When I got back into magic recently I decided I wasn't going to spend a lot of money. Vraska's Contempt is definitely out, for that reason. Though tbh, I'll play Status / Statue in that spot anyway, should I need removal - it's rare I need to gain life, and if I do, Kraul Foragers is perfect. Wait, it's not in my sideboard. Oops. Anyway, Status / Statue for the most part kills a larger range of stuff than Vraska's Contempt.
I'll stick with Kraul Harpooner for now, since as a creature it has synergy with the other cards in the deck, although I haven't even played it yet since I normally just trample over flyers with my Charnel Trolls without really needing to sideboard.
I've been toying with Golgari Findbroker, but tbh it just for the most part seems worse than Gruesome Menagerie, except for fetching Vraska, Golgari Queen, of course. I don't really need it, though. We'll see.
I've updated with how it is now. See if that's aggro enough for you :P
2 months ago
You might want to consider a splash into Black, just for the Charnel Troll and the Cast Down, charnel troll takes over games and Cast Down deals with that annoying curious obsession, Ghalta, or any white weenie cards like Loxodon.
3 months ago
THE BIG MOOD! Awesome.
Yeah I also was thinking it would be a problem. The "combo" part of the deck take too much place imo.
I was planning to either try a GR version, with lots of creature and Kraul Harpooner as a finisher with a PUNCH. It would allow the deck to win without the combo and the other creatures would be big enough to justify the punch by them.
But if I were to keep the GBR version, I would drop Golgari Raiders, Moodmark Painter and maybe Molderhulk. Instead, I would try to get either threat that don't depend on the graveyard : Doom Whisperer ( + the surveil allow us to fill the graveyard like crazy ) or better ones : Charnel Troll.
Tormenting Voice instead of Costly Plunder, it also makes us drop another creature in the graveyard maybe. Assassin's Trophy instead of Find / Finality. Gruesome Menagerie for the super value ( sticher, shaman and jadelight ? ).
I am trying to cut a lots of the combo because the opponent can easily disrupt it, so there have to be another way to win. The GR version will prolly be more consistent about the winning but will not depend on the PUNCH as much as the GBR. This one could go crazy with it tho. Sticher into Shaman into Jadelight into Kraul+Thud ? Could get a 8 or 9 in the op face at turn 4 !
Those are my thought for now, I hope it will help you !
3 months ago
vomitpile I definitely have and the Molderhulk + Memorial to Folly is a great combo which has made me debate to tweak the deck. Charnel Troll just comes down so much faster and threatens them if it's not dealt with and it's a definite three drop. Although kinda of a no-bo with izoni, I think it's discard ability can offset that to some degree.
But definitely something to think about, Thanks!
Charnel Troll occurrence in decks from the last year
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