Creature — Harpy Beast
When Cavern Harpy enters the battlefield, return a blue or black creature you control to its owner's hand.
Pay 1 life: Return Cavern Harpy to its owner's hand.
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Cavern Harpy Discussion
2 weeks ago
- Tragic Slip (good against gods)
- Deathreap Ritual (good pull towards Golgari, good splash for Rakdos and Selesnya)
- Malicious Affliction (good black targeted removal)
- Morbid Curiosity (good in Artifacts and Golgari)
- Mirrorweave (seems like it could get pretty zany, also works as a functional wrath if you target a legendary creature)
- Slate of Ancestry (seems like a better option than Harmonize and the like for colors without CA)
- Thundermaw Hellkite (just busted)
- Hellkite Charger (lets speed up the game a bit)
- Illusionist's Gambit (a hilarious gotcha card in blue)
- Thalia, Heretic Cathar (this card makes the aggro deck in the pod much more threatening)
- Cavern Harpy
- Boros Charm
- Boartusk Liege
- Goblin Chieftain
- Goblin King
- Goblin Lackey
- Goblin Matron
- Goblin Piledriver
- Goblin Recruiter
- Goblin Warchief
- Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician
- Krenko, Mob Boss
- Skirk Fire Marshal
- Warren Instigator
Potential cuts (not removed, waiting your feedback):
- Sylvan Primordial (too much value I think)
- Sundering Titan (again, too much value)
- Nahiri, the Harbinger (she is good but doesnt support any archetypes)
- Merchant's Dockhand (very durdly. I actually hate this card, to be honest lol)
- Gruul Charm (doesnt do enough. There are better options to stop blocks)
- Merciless Eviction I think this is too good, actually. I dont want the build/reset dynamic unless you really pay a cost for it.
- Supreme Verdict (see: Merciless Eviction)
- Dovescape I think this will actually lead to too many board stalls. Not worth it.
- Reparations Doesnt do enough
- Darksteel Mutation (not necessary. We have enough good white removal)
- Limited Resources too mean.
- Tempt with Glory the tokens deck wants this, but I think it will only be better than a 6-mana put a +1/+1 on each creature you control when playing against gruul.
- Filigree Sages too little payoff for those stats
- Skill Borrower this card just sucks
- Shape Anew very bad. I love tinker, but nah.
- Black Sun's Zenith too good.
- Dread Return We said no reanimation
- Animate Dead
- Bonfire of the Damned too mean
- Starstorm too good I think. Rolling Thunder could be a good replacement?
- Tempt with Discovery I hope were playing with people smart enough not to fall for this trap
- Fang of the Pack (I think this card is not very good. I like that it has melee, but its not the best for a 6-drop)
Goblin Tribal just didnt seem viable unless you draft AND CAST Krenko. The deck leans too hard on one card and is too all-in for the multiplayer format. Sorry Goblins!
I left in the GU liege in case we want to do tap control in Simic, but I think we should move away from that archetype. I think I am more into ramp (Rashmi etc.) or cheating (Show and Tell effects). Maybe Simic is just good enough that we dont really need to plan too much for it. I dunno.
Still torn about Azorius. Do you think we have enough control in the format as-is? Can we do creature control with blinks? I want to move away from walls and wraths if possible, but I also want control (in whatever form we decide to do it) to be viable. Its important to me that there is room for control players to have plenty of fun drafting and playing, but its also important to keep the pace of the game. I think where we are now is a good mix of aggro/midrange slugfest plus control elements that cut them down and build CA over time.
2 weeks ago
Rite of Replication targeting your commander you will deal 30 damage to each opponent.
2 weeks ago
Thinking a bit about how to make UB artifacts flex a bit into R and G without forcing it. Esper is already there, I think. Came up with these additions:
Other good Artifacts that dont require you to build around:
Other potential cuts (not removed):
- Lieges. We could keep the UW one if we wanna do UW fliers, and we could keep the WR one to give tokens a bit more edge. Could also keep Creakwood Liege for sac fodder in GB
- Cavern Harpy We dont have a deck for it
- Boros Charm Its a bit too narrow
- Lexivore This is going to be a pain in the ass in complex board states.
General notes: we have way too many indestructible creatures. Lets tone it down a bit.
3 weeks ago
Cavern Harpy is nice for recurring your commander ability and abusing ETB effects.
3 weeks ago
Considering you're an Aluren cpmbo deck you could consider looking at past legacy/vintage lists.
2 months ago
So am I! I edited it to show the 48 cards I must include in my deck, barring the maybeboard. I'm trying to build something out of this. Im thinking I can do it three ways.
First and most boring is just to slap in whatever good stuff I own in the corresponding colors and call it a day. That sounds terrible and unfun.
The second option is to build it as a mill deck. I gave people a number of cards that put themselves on the bottom of their library so I thought Tunnel Vision would be fun plus Mindcrank and Duskmantle Guildmage.
I have a smattering of decent cards in the colors but Im not opposed to spend a little bit of money on this. Though it is a budget of about $20 :/
Does that help clear things up?
2 months ago
I have been interested in making a Cavern Harpy deck, but haven't gotten around to it yet. But I have been searching for good cards to build around it.
You may want to consider Ghostly Flicker or Displace as an instant speed effects. If used with Ravenous Rats you could do this at the end of their draw step to force a discard without a chance to play. Or use with Spellstutter Sprite to counter a spell.
I know you're mostly leaning blue here, but if something like Chittering Rats or some of the other black cards with come into play effects were on your maybe list, Escape Routes might be a worthy add.
My two cents...
2 months ago
How do you feel about Aluren with Cavern Harpy, Parasitic Strix and Sea Gate Oracle? (Also cards like Dream Stalker, Cloud of Faeries, Glen Elendra Archmage work well with it. They aren't essential, but might be worth considering.)
I've played against that online and it felt very powerful. Actually nuked my Narset deck out of nowhere.
I've been thinking of a storm deck to play mostly for fun, but I've ended up thinking either Ydris or Kydele + Vial Smasher as generals however I think of it. It wasn't that clear for me what role Ydris would fill in EDH at first, but it's starting to look like the best Storm general really.