Creature — Human Soldier
Tap two untapped Soldiers you control: Catapult Squad deals 2 damage to target attacking or blocking creature.
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Catapult Squad Discussion
1 year ago
On face, the deck seems like a good budget deck. It conforms with the general standards for an edh deck and follows a clear strategy. However, I think that there are some problems with the deck. Although it is built on a budget, there are only 6 ramp card in total plus 2 cards which decrease the cost of soldiers. On face it looks ok, but paired with only 36 lands (one of which ( Temple of the False God ) being a half-ramp card) it is questionable. I would add another ramp (like Thran Dynamo ) and a land ( Evolving Wilds , Terramorphic Expanse , Spinerock Knoll ). Also, I would argue that the removal in this deck is weak. The only true removal spell is Swords to Plowshares while others with worse conditions, like Response / Resurgence and Spear of Heliod , can have some major downsides in a commander game. The other single target removal spells ( Steam Catapult , Intrepid Hero , Catapult Squad and Catapult Master ) are, quite frankly very limited and. In addition to the weakness of the removal, there are only 7 of them, which is, in my opinion, quite lacking, especially considering 4 of them are creatures and there is no enchantment or artifact removal. I would reccomend the extra investment for Path to Exile , and also consider Lightning Bolt , Vandalblast , Wear / Tear and Oppressive Rays . One final point is the colour wheel of the deck (next to the mana curve). I find that, for a 2 colour deck, there is far too little red for it to be worth playing. Because of this, there are relatively few red mana producing cards, meaning often you will not be able to play the few red spells that you will inevitably draw, they are dead cards (this is why i recommended Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds above). However, I would also like to complement the deck building, as the theme of the deck is very strong and maintained, and I hope to see it do well in play-testing.
2 years ago
Looks pretty tasty, and it's a great start!
I would take out Quest for the Holy Relic, Open the Armory, and Strength of Arm due to not really having that much equipment. I would add 3 more Plains (I would also try to balance your mana better, try less Mountains and more Plains). If that mana fixing becomes an issue, add in Evolving Wilds, Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, Terminal Moraine, Arid Mesa, Naya Panorama, or Terramorphic Expanse. I would recommend adding at least 3-5 fetch lands to help mana fixing.
If you take out Armory of Iroas, Murder Investigation, and Coat of Arms, you could free up the last two spots for the 38 lands.
I did notice that a lot of your soldiers have a synergy with equipment cards, yet you only run 2 equipment cards. I was a bit confused by this. I would recommend taking them all out and replacing them. I would also recommend trying to run 2 more soldiers (you are at that tribal sweet spot with all the soldier creatures, but Boros is known for being aggressive with instant/sorcery AND creatures). 30 creatures is great aggro. Here are some creatures I would recommend: Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Blaze Commando, Sunhome Guildmage, Preeminent Captain, Field Marshal, Daru Warchief, Ballyrush Banneret, Veteran Swordsmith, Rhox Pikemaster, or Catapult Squad. The cards I'd recommend to take out are Auriok Steelshaper, Auriok Survivors, Auriok Windwalker, Conclave Phalanx, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas, Relic Seeker, Fated Conflagration, Arrows of Justice.
You already have a lot of key cards. I do see that your mana is very unbalanced. I would add more Plains. If you just take out one Mountain at a time and switch it for a Plains until your Pie Chart for your mana is "perfectly" aligned. It won't always be there, but the closer the better. With this being a tribal deck, it would help to have cards like Cavern of Souls, but that's a make-or-break card for you wallet. I actually don't even have one (it's one of the last 9 cards I WANT for my Gishath deck). Soldiers won't really get a lot of heat at any of my play groups, so getting countered shouldn't be that big of an issue.
Here is what I would take out and add:
- Quest for the Holy Relic - Open the Armory - Strength of Arm - Armory of Iroas - Coat of Arms - Murder Investigation - Auriok Steelshaper - Auriok Survivors - Auriok Windwalker - Conclave Phalanx - Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas - Relic Seeker - Fated Conflagration - Arrows of Justice + Evolving Wilds + Terramorphic Expanse + Naya Panorama + 3x Plains + Sunhome Guildmage + Brimaz, King of Oreskos + Daru Warchief + Rhox Pikemaster + Ballyrush Banneret + Field Marshal + Veteran Swordsmith + Preeminent Captain Rebalance Mountains and Plains to match the Pie Chart
Sorry for the ranty post. I get a bit into it.
3 years ago
This looks like a pretty solid Soldier tribal deck. But I see some room for improvement:
- There are a couple of lands I would suggest running that will be a little better than Plains in your deck. Firstly, Daru Encampment is a staple soldier land. I would also look at Nomad Stadium as a means to deal yourself damage and increase your legion. There are also some generally good white mana-makers which can be of use in any monowhite deck. But they tend to be pricey, so I'll leave them off my list.
- You're making a ton of tokens with this deck, and to that end Anointed Procession can be of assistance.
- Catapult Master and Catapult Squad are two all-stars in Soldier tribal that sometimes get missed.
- Finally, there seem to be some cards in here that aren't pulling their weight as Soldiers. I would remove Perimeter Captain and Valiant Guard, along with Timely Reinforcements. There are just better options in Commander than those cards.
I hope this helps. This looks like a super-fun EDH deck, and +1 for using my favorite tribal card: Cryptic Gateway.
3 years ago
I like the general beat down premise of the deck although I feel some of the soldier choices are sub optimal such as Abzan Skycaptain. I am guessing by the number of more recently released soldiers that your collection is fairly new and that you are working with what you have. With that in mind I have compiled some categories for soldiers you may wish to consider in the future for roles in the deck.
General Combat value soldiers: Aerial Responder, Bastion Protector, Fabled Hero, Fencing Ace, Gustcloak Savior, Kazandu Blademaster, Odric, Master Tactician. Bastion Protector is HIGHLY advised if you can as it makes your creature board indestructible with your commander out in combat. I would also recommend in general using creatures that are inexpensive and provide two or more useful keywords, although double strike is powerful enough to warrant use by itself I feel.
Token generators: Darien, King of Kjeldor, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Lieutenants of the Guard, Patrol Signaler, Precinct Captain. Soldiers tend to die pretty quickly with the eldritch abominations that frequent commander and especially when board wipes abound so I would recommend increasing the solider token generation of the deck to ensure a capable offense. Darien has recently been changed to a solider and so could fit the deck pretty well.
Utility: Catapult Master, Catapult Squad, Aegis of the Gods, Intrepid Hero, Kalemne's Captain. Flexibility can be pretty useful for survival in commander and I feel these offer some flexibility without impacting the raw offensive capabilities of the deck much.
Hate Effects: Loxodon Gatekeeper, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thalia, Heretic Cathar. Although not necessary there are a few tax and hate effects in solider tribal if you ever wanted to branch out in that direction but I feel its better to go all in or not at all with hate effects, however these are some of those options.
Card advantage: Enlistment Officer, Mentor of the Meek, Palace Sentinels, Preeminent Captain, Ranger of Eos, Recruiter of the Guard, Relic Seeker. Card advantage will make or break you in commander while I think all these are worthy inclusions I can not state strongly enough how much you need Mentor of the Meek, with Elspeth he is pay three mana draw three cards and most solider cards will trigger his ability. Monarch will also net you a card at the end of your turn and with your solider army the odds of you getting hit for combat damage and losing monarch are fairly slim and easy to get back if you do.
Life Gain: Soldier of the Pantheon. I personally think your life gain should be left to equipment with life link since if your deck is doing its job its going to be most people hiding behind creatures from you, but here is a tribal life gain creature.
Equipment Choices: Basilisk Collar, Chariot of Victory, Batterskull, Lightning GreavesThese were some equipment I thought might fit the deck well and tried to aim for equipment that would add two or more keywords, Lightning Greaves are worth adding for the haste and free equip cost in my opinion.
Enchantments: Dictate of Heliod, Cathars' Crusade. I would not advise going for the heroic mechanic with auras as the deck seems to have difficulty with card advantage currently and you are setting your self up for two for one losses to removal, with that in mind I recommend these solid anthem effects.
Card draw: Mind's Eye, Staff of Nin, Skullclamp. You will find card draw to be quite tricky in white so I have compiled a few non creature draw engines for you to consider, I recommend adding all of them as you can never really have enough card draw, just ask a blue player.
In the future I would recommend adding 5-8 enchant/artifact destruction spells, especially artifacts, as creature strategies can be easily disrupted or fall victim to combos and your deck has almost no ways to stop such things currently. Look forward to seeing how this evolves in the future.
3 years ago
AmadeusKaelPyralis Thanks. I have other decks posted even longer with no comments either, though.
I also bought the deck for it's artifacts and angels. But before I took it apart, I had a few games against one of my friends who plays a Purphoros, God of the Forge deck and I won all of them. This made me want to modify it, after knowing it's potential. I also love to play with unpopular themes and commanders, with Kalemne being the least favorite and least played commander of that year's release, I knew I had to build one and it has to be a giant theme. For the fun and the challenge.
Your ideas are great. I've thought of them before, mixing other tribal themes into giants. Most of the playable giants are either soldier or warrior (if they have more than one type). However with Kalemne being a soldier, unless we decide to reduce her role in the deck, warrior might not be a good choice compared to solider. There are quite a lot of soldier tribal cards, most from the Onslaught block. Catapult Squad and Catapult Master work best with Kalemne since she has vigilance. There are two problems, though. The first is that most solder creatures have low CMC, making it difficult for Kalemne to grow. The second is is that most solder tribal cards give creatures either first strike or vigilance, which Kalemne doesn't need at all. So with either warrior or soldier, we might end up replacing Kalemne as we improve the deck. This is not what I would want to do. I want to stick to her as a commander. Therefore mixing creature types doesn't seem to work at the moment.
Right now the helping hand mostly comes from large powerful creatures with CMC greater than 5. It's actually not that hard to cast giants if you have Stinkdrinker Daredevil or Urza's Incubator in play. Along with other mana ramps, this deck is actually quite fast. Usually turn 3 Kalemne and turn 4 4/4 double strike dealing 8 damage after we play a 5CMC giant (turn 2 Kalemne and turn 3 attack if we have either Sol Ring or Ancient Tomb.
3 years ago
It seems you missed one of the vows; Vow of Duty.
War Cadence can both be a bargaining tool, and make your opponents more enticing to attack.
Catapult Squad plus an ample amount of soldiers gives you incredible control over combat math. Players have to start asking you to let their creatures survive combat. Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile and Ballista Squad do similar work.