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Bull Cerodon Discussion
11 months ago
So something to immediately note, RW decks do not have a great amount of card draw or mana ramp. So Some of the cut recommendations will be focusing on making our individual card quality quite high, and making sure that our curve is reasonable due to lack of ability to rapidly start dropping high mana creatures quickly.
The recommendations will also be focusing towards the strengths of what our commander gives us. Namely, noncombat based win condition, and reliable lifegain. Meaning we don't have to rely on turning our guys sideways to win, and we can pack our deck with effects that let us draw cards on life gain and similar effects.
Also, I'm sure you are already aware from typing up the decklist, but there are a lot of draft level creatures and other cards in this deck. So there will be a lot of cut recommendations for this one.
Bull Cerodon - Its a generic 5/5 for 6. Its not great here.
Fire-Belly Changeling - While it is a giant for our tribal effects, we could do with something with more impact for our two drops.
Firemane Angel - This card is just SO SLOW and SO expensive to get anything going. And the body that all this work gets you is so mediocre that i just don't think this is worth it.
Hearthcage Giant - Second most expensive mana cost card in the deck, and not nearly as powerful as what we want any 8 drops that we play to be.
Hillcomber Giant - 4 mana 3/3 with little upside. We can play better.
Ivory Giant - Suspended on turn 1 this will come down on turn 6. Hard cast it will come down on turn 7. The effect that we get from doing so is not necessarily game changing so we can probably find something thats better for this slot.
Kuldotha Ringleader - Another draft level creature that unfortunately doesn't make the cut in commander.
Lairwatch Giant - Again. too much mana for what it does.
Shatterskull Giant - 4 mana 4/3 with nothing else. Not really good enough
Artisan of Kozilek - This effect is good. But its a lot of mana in a colour pair not known for great ramp. So this is one we will need to re-evaluate once we look at how good our mana is.
Cloudgoat Ranger - While it makes a decent amount of bodies for the cost, its not greatly efficient towards what we are trying to do.
Wandering Graybeard - Ok stats but rather low impact for a 5 drop in commander. Doesn't immediately need replacing but on the short list further down the line.
1 year ago
Big smashy Naya decks can be a ton of fun! It kinda depends on what direction you want to take the deck, but if you're looking at the classic 'power 5 or greater matters' theme, here are some suggestions:
Remove: Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip: This deck focuses more on casting big creatures, so the likelihood of flipping Chandra is very low. Firemane Angel: Very expensive for her effects. Better creatures and lifegain can be found. Gigantosaurus: Hilarious card, but the 5 green will be super hard to get in a three color deck. Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, and Ajani's Welcome: These cards are all geared towards a 'go-wide' playstyle that encourages lots of small creatures. That's not how Naya usually plays, and most of the rest of your deck isn't set up to support them. Light of the Legion, Swiftblade Vindicator, Dawn of Hope, Path of Discovery, Prodigious Growth, Urban Utopia, Bounty of Might, Flower / Flourish, Boros Keyrune, and Selesnya Cluestone: These are all cards that either don't mesh great with the rest of the deck, or are decent, but have cards that can usually do the same thing better.
Big Boyz: Meglonoth: Great power for 6 mana, and can really pump out damage both attacking and blocking each time around the table! Mycoid Shepherd: Pretty decent source of lifegain. Paleoloth: Graveyard recursion. Spearbreaker Behemoth: Gives your important stuff indestructibility! Spellbreaker Behemoth: Can absolutely wreck blue control. Woolly Thoctar: 5/4 for 3. Nuff said. Bull Cerodon: Really solid creature to keep bashing your opponent's with. Godsire: Can be hard to play, but will generate an insane amount of value if it stays in play. Stalking Vengeance: When your stuff dies, so do your opponents! Victory's Herald: massive boost to your field, especially with lifegain.
Mana Ramp: Gruul Signet and Selesnya Signet: Some of the best ramp for three color decks. Drumhunter, Exuberant Firestoker, Sacellum Godspeaker, and Sunseed Nurturer: Can be okay as ramp, while also synergizing with your theme. Mul Daya Channelers: can be either a 5/5, or help you ramp into one. Somberwald Sage, Beastcaller Savant, Birds of Paradise, Channeler Initiate, Chromatic Lantern, Commander's Sphere, Draconic Disciple, Llanowar Elves, Atzocan Seer, and Drover of the Mighty: All permanents with useful ramp abilities, some of which even have a few other potential synergies. Traverse the Ulvenwald, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Yavimaya Elder, Harrow, Journey of Discovery, Gift of Estates, Cultivate, Caravan Vigil, and Collective Voyage: Cards with varying effects that let you search up lands from your library.
Utility: Asceticism: Lots of protection for your board. Anger and Fires of Yavimaya: gives all of your creatures haste. Signal the Clans: Great tutor card for creature based decks. Loxodon Warhammer and Behemoth Sledge: Trample and lifegain on a stick. Domri Rade: Card draw, repeatable fighting, and a crazy ult. Deafening Clarion, Austere Command, Earthquake, Mizzium Mortars, Comet Storm, and Savage Twister: All have the potential to be near one-sided boardwipes.
Lands: Ancient Ziggurat: With a focus on creatures, this card is usually really useful. Command Tower: Should be in every commander deck. Naya Panorama and Jungle Shrine Kessig Wolf Run: Extra damage and trample. Contested Cliffs: Repeatable fighting for your beasts.
There are probably more suggestions I could make, and certainly not all of these cards need to go in. Just some different ideas for you to consider!
1 year ago
1 year ago
Hi, wanted to let you know about two cards that don't function correctly:
- Bull Cerodon doesn't show at all - it'll go into the inventory, but has no image (doesn't matter whether HOP or ALA version).
- FTV: Transform (foil) version of Garruk Relentless Flip doesn't transform during playtesting (or flip in the main deck view) - no Garruk the Veil-Cursed, it's just a 1-sided card. ISD version works fine.
2 years ago
Boros Signet will help you a lot in terms of mana-ramp.
Bull Cerodon can be handy since it hits like a bus and you can still block with it.
Nobilis of War will probably be your finisher for your attacking creatures.
2 years ago
At the very least, I would try to find room for Thousand-Year Elixir as that pseudo-Haste can be very key to ensuring you get value from your commander ASAP. Not to mention untap triggers are pretty great, so Magewright's Stone can also be a pretty powerful inclusion. And the ability to untap your general cranks up the value of cards such as Molten Primordial exponentially.
And let's not forget that Scuttling Doom Engine is just downright hilarious in this kind of deck. I'm also not sure why you would run Expedite over Hammer of Purphoros, as the latter is static and can even give you more fling targets should you start to draw into excess land. And speaking of land, Command Tower>>>>>>>Rupture Spire
As for things to cut, War Elemental, Invincible Hymn, Living Inferno, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Sunblast Angel, and Astral Cornucopia seem to be really slow cards for what they do, while cards like Stonehorn Dignitary, Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran, Bull Cerodon, Dragon Hatchling, Reroute, Wing Shards, and Desperate Ritual just look too low impact/situational to keep.
Anyway, those are just my impressions on the deck. It looks really fun and I hope you find my suggestions helpful.
3 years ago
Esto se va...
Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran: El mazo tiene que ser agresivo, tokens X/1. No te importa la defensa, de cualquier manera se van a morir. Esto dispara slo para las rojas, slo cuando atacan. No es negocio. Orcish Oriflamme te sirve mas. No le importa el color, y dispara siempre
Arashin Foremost: No dispara nunca, hay muy pocos guerreros en el mazo, y los estoy sacando todos porque son horribles. Yo tengo un mazo de 60 Tribal de Warriors, dps te lo muestro para que veas la diferencia.
Borderland Marauder: Muy debil
Boros Battleshaper: No tiene sentido, va en contra de todo lo que vos queres hacer...
Boros Elite: Muy debil
Bull Cerodon: Muy debil
Consul's Lieutenant: Muy debil
Dragonscale General: No me convence, pero le voy a dar el beneficio de la duda...
Fortress Cyclops: Muy debil
Kragma Butcher: Muy debil
Lantern Scout: No sirve de nada ganar vidas. No vas a ganar un partido curandote.
Lord of Shatterskull Pass: Muy lento
Manic Vandal: Meh...no me parece tan copado
Ordruun Veteran: Muy debil
Pearlspear Courier: Muy debil
Steelshaper Apprentice: Muy debil
Sunhome Enforcer: Muy debil
Taj-Nar Swordsmith: Muy debil
Truefire Paladin: Muy debil