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Remove Bronze Tablet from your deck before playing if you're not playing for ante.
Bronze Tablet enters the battlefield tapped.
(4), Tap: Remove Bronze Tablet and target nontoken permanent an opponent owns from the game. That player may pay 10 life. If he or she does, put Bronze Tablet into its owner's graveyard. Otherwise, that player owns Bronze Tablet and you own the other removed card.
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Bronze Tablet Discussion
3 months ago
Dimir-Acolyte - As this has been open for a couple days, I've marked Boza's post as the accepted answer to this thread. In the future, if you could please hit the "Mark as Answer" button that shows up on responses once you're question has been resolved, that would be appreciated. It helps keep the Rules Q&A section organised and serves as allows future users who stumble across the same question to easily locate the answer.
"Ownership refers to who's card that deck came from."
This is a good general way to understand ownership, but is not 100% accurate--there exist two exceptions:
Ownership also includes cards that are brought in from outside of the game--such as with Glittering Wish. This seems pretty obvious, but, technically, these cards do not have a "deck they came from" so do not neatly fit in your definition.
There also exist four cards that allow ownership to change, regardless of whose deck the card started in--Bronze Tablet, Darkpact. Tempest Efreet, and Timmerian Fiends. Granted, all of these cards are banned in every format, not welcome at kitchen table, and possibly in violation of local gambling laws, but they're still worth mentioning as a historical curiosity.
4 months ago
The Silver-Bordered cards and Bronze Tablet are largely cards I'm including for the fun factor. I like having Un-set cards sideboarded in case the game isn't necessarily too serious, and a bit of spice would make it more interesting. Bronze Tablet is not something I would use with anyone who isn't fine with the whole ante shenanigan. It was in my collection, and fit okay enough, so why not? As you might have noticed, I reworked the deck because I found that the prices were getting out of hand. Mnemonic Betrayal looks amazing, but considering it's a mythic in the most recent set in Standard, I'd like to wait for the mass box openings 'till I pick one up for a better price, or I'll trade my Deathrite for it and Praetor's Grasp. Bloodchief Ascension looks fun, might trade my Mission Briefing for it. I hold Magistrate's Scepter close to my heart because I have the promo version (one of the only two promos I own), and the threatening nature of it means I can divert attention away from my hand and towards the artifact. If I can find justification I'll cut it though. Spellbook is also a cut. Mastermind's Acquisition as well. Glasses of Urza (which I legit thought was an un-set card at first lmao) is useful utility early on but loses purpose after. I'll cut it. I appreciate the help lots!! Do you have any help for creatures? I'm only at 16 and it's kinda growing on me.
4 months ago
Okay, so I finally had some time to come by and take a closer look! First, I suspect you know this, but Crow Storm, Five-Finger Discount, and are silver-bordered and thus not legal in commander. Many playgroups will allow them, though, which is fine if yours lets you. With that being said, Bronze Tablet is beyond banned: it permanently exchanges ownership of a card, an effect that is never ever allowed under any circumstances in modern Magic. I know it's in the sideboard, but it's not even worth having there.
Second, this deck looks a lot better than the first time I stopped by here! It has a tighter focus and more focus on a specific goal: steal if you can, mill if you can't. You're still on a budget, so I'll do my best to keep that in mind. I don't know if you're opposed to infinite combos, but Bloodchief Ascension is great here: just a great card anyway with mill, but doubly awesome when it goes infinite to kill opponents with Mindcrank. Mnemonic Betrayal might be exactly up your alley, as might Lazav, Dimir Mastermind and/or Lazav, the Multifarious. You also could use some more decent draw effects, like Rain of Notions, Read the Bones, etc.
Beyond that, Mastermind's Acquisition doesn't function in EDH unless your playgroup is playing with unusual rules (the second mode just doesn't do anything). My first cuts would be Energy Chamber, Feroz's Ban, Glasses of Urza, Magistrate's Scepter, Spellbook, Mastermind's Acquisition, and Peek. I hope that helps!
4 months ago
You are missing nothing--you're a person who totally understands why others find the Ravager story amusing.
But, for the sake of those who don't know:
Owner and Controller are two different words in MTG. The owner of a card is the one who actually owns the card. Ownership of a card pretty much never changes--there are some old cards, like Bronze Tablet, which change the ownership of a card, but these are not permissible in any format (and many of them run afoul of local gambling laws, so might just be illegal depending on your jurisdiction).
A controller of a spell or permanent is the person who has possession of it in-game.
So, for example, if I use Animate Dead on your Nicol Bolas, the Ravenger (I'm too lazy to look at what the reanimation spells in Standard are right now, so I'm using an older card with similar effect).
Animate Dead causes Nicol Bolas, the Ravenger to enter the battlefield under my control. I do not own Nicol Bolas, the Ravenger--the person who physically owns the card does; however, I still control it.
Nicol Bolas, the Ravenger's ability reads "Exile Nicol Bolas, the Ravager, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control." Emphasis added.
So, while I might control Nicol Bolas, the Ravenger and thus am the one who can activate his ability, his exile effect clearly states it returns under his owner's control, not his controller's control.
1 year ago
Only if you're playing for ante.
The oracle text for Bronze Tablet includes "Remove Bronze Tablet from your deck before playing if you're not playing for ante."
"407.1. Earlier versions of the Magic rules included an ante rule as a way of playing for keeps. Playing Magic games for ante is now considered an optional variation on the game, and it's allowed only where it's not forbidden by law or by other rules. Playing for ante is strictly forbidden under the Magic: The Gathering Tournament Rules."
1 year ago
2 years ago
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