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Brightstone Ritual Discussion
1 month ago
Some thoughts: Goblin Trashmaster could be really solid in commander to take care of pesky artifacts. Goblin Matron is a good goblin tutor card that even keeps with the deck theme by putting out a 1/1 goblin creature. Goblin Recruiter is a bit more expensive money-wise, but the effect is so much stronger (and it really could/should count as card draw b/c of how many cards you could pull). For that reason Reliquary Tower would be a good pick-up, and is significantly cheaper since its reprinting. Goblin War Strike is another potential win condition. Throne of the God-Pharaoh coupled with Furystoke Giant or Kyren Negotiations would be brutal. Goblin Ringleader could help with card draw, so could Vanquisher's Banner. I like Brightstone Ritual better than Seething Song, it's simply better in 80%+ situations. I like Gempalm Incinerator a lot. I know it isn't a goblin, but I think Hellrider could be huge for you. kindred charge would double your goblins, great synergy with Impact Tremors, Purphoros, God of the Forge, and your sac engine (Boggart Shenanigans and Goblin Bombardment).
2 months ago
Love it! I've brewed/played a ton of these too (and 8 whack in Modern.) I'd go 4x Goblin Grenade for sure (or Reckless Abandon on MTGO since it didn't let you play GG or Empty the Warrens last time I tried in Pauper.) Brightstone Ritual is another great card once you get rolling.
My version (w/o empty the warrens or goblin grenade was reasonably competitive on MTGO, I'll bet with those two, it's pretty insane!)
3 months ago
Hey Nick it's Owen!
Love the look of the deck so far- I can tell you've put a lot of work into designing it and it really shows, dude. As a first deck, this is definitely a helluva lot better than the first deck I ever made on my own. I do however want to give you a heads up about some things that you may want to change after playing the deck some- I figured giving some feedback on the list itself now might help you with maintaining a direction once you start experimenting with switching out cards!
If you check out your mana curve, you'll see that there's a heavy leaning towards 3 cost spells in your deck- this is good! The lower the Avg. CMC is on a decklist, the better. This means you'll be able to play more of your deck before other players- in an aggro build you don't want to get to the point that you are hard casting Kozelik because you want to win before then (I know he's in for the graveyard shuffle but I just used him for example because of his high cost). I will point out though that you've still got a heavy leaning on the mana heavier side of 3 which brings your Avg. CMC to 3.59 with around 5 cards that cost 7 CMC and then reaching up to 10 with Kozelik. Because of this- you're going to need more ramp than you currently have in the deck. Solemn Simulacrum and Burnished Hart aren't the kind of ramp you want here simply because they are expensive mana-wise and will only fetch you lands (these are good in multi colored decks because you're trying to fix your board to have all the colors you need). In mono colored decks the best ramp is cheap colorless mana rocks because they'll ramp you hella fast and you don't necessarily need the extra color. I highly recommend placing in Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Wayfarer's Bauble, and Coldsteel Heart. You'll be overtaking Matt in mana at that rate, especially since you can play all of those pieces of ramp before dropping a Simulacrum or Burnished Hart, or especially a Caged Sun which costs 6 and normally leads to an endgame strategy like paying for Aggravated Assault.
Second, I'd actually recommend running less lands- in fact you can replace some of those lands with the colorless ramp I mentioned before. Lands aren't needed as heavily in mono color as multi color, so it can be safe to run as few as 32 or 33 and the deck still work very efficiently.
The cards you've got in here are fantastic and I can't wait to see them in action, but when you're looking for more cards in the future I have these highly recommended here for ya:
Brightstone Ritual - With this you can very easily kill the entire board paired with Aggravated Assault or Bonfire of the Damned.
Mob Justice - Another fantastic wincon that can be used to either close out a game or really drive down someone's health.
Magewright's Stone - This one is brutally good for untapping Krenko
Reckless One - big boi real fast
Goblin Chirurgeon - This one is just so brutally good. Every goblin krenko makes suddenly becomes a flesh shield to keep him from dying.
Anywho- these are just my recommendations to take with a grain of salt! The deck really does look great and I'm very much looking forward to seeing your goblin swarm in action. Well done, my dude.
Ya boi, Owen
5 months ago
This isn't a bad start. I would begin with adding Purphoros, God of the Forge He can combo really well with Krenko, Mob Boss and with enough goblins on the field could be a one turn win. I would also suggest a lot more artifacts/lands to ramp for a short list: Sol Ring, Worn Powerstone, Fire Diamond, Everflowing Chalice, Darksteel Ingot, and maybe a Temple of the False God. As for some other potential spells, you cant go wrong with Goblin Grenade and Goblin War Strike might be useful too. Perhaps a Brightstone Ritual as well. You could also possibly run a Fervor or Browbeat for some utility. These are just some suggestions. Don't feel the need to run them all if you don't like them. Hope this helps! also a +1 for ya!
5 months ago
Krenko wants to move fast so here is what I would cut and add:
Door of Destinies is too slow; Quest for the Goblin Lord too little boost; Boggart Shenanigans 1 too much mana; Warstorm Surge seems win-more; Wheel of Fate cannot control it well; Kindred Charge too expensive; Vanquisher's Banner too expensive; Goblin Charbelcher don't see a way to manipulate this effectively; Conqueror's Galleon if kept I'd add Throne of the God-Pharaoh; Chancellor of the Forge too expensive; Goblin Assassin fun but expensive; Goblin Recruiter have doubles so cut 1 and add Goblin Matron; Metallic Mimic a slow lord that may not be truly needed; and Ogre Battledriver kind of win-more.
Foundry Street Denizen can get huge like Reckless One; Goblin Chainwhirler will be fun; Goblin Dark-Dwellers expensive but good utility; Lightning Crafter consistent burn; Mogg War Marshal more goblins; Wily Goblin mini ramp; Zo-Zu the Punisher can punish heavy ramping decks;
Fling works well w 2 (or 3 if you add FSD) for obvious reasons; Mizzium Mortars overload ftw; ; Fork, Reiterate, Reverberate, Increasing Vengeance, and Howl of the Horde let you 2 for 1 spells, even your opponents, so you can counter a counter or copy ramp to get ahead or copy a kill spell for your own satisfaction too; Battle Hymn, Brightstone Ritual, Pyretic Ritual, and Seething Song to get moving quicker.
Relic of Progenitus and Tormod's Crypt for graveyard hate; Coldsteel Heart, Fellwar Stone, Fire Diamond, Ruby Medallion, Hazoret's Monument, Sol Ring,Wayfarer's Bauble, Armillary Sphere, Traveler's Amulet, Expedition Map for ramp (see a theme? You want 1-2 (a few 3) CMC ramp in here).
Now, Zada, Hedron Grinder is my baby and I think you should add her in with a few spells that will be fine without her but amazing if she is out: Crimson Wisps and Expedite draw and give haste, which you want Krenko to always have just in case he might get killed. With Zada you still get haste but draw 10+ cards; Heat Shimmer and Twinflame let you get a 2nd utility goblin or Krenko (sacking original) for even more goblins. With Zada she will double your entire board.
6 months ago
jordybear2002: I have played with Fireball before and it did work when i had the setup for it, but there was a lot of times where the setup just wasnt there yet and it was a dead card/draw. I might include it once again once i have tested some more with some of the other cards i aquired.
Brightstone Ritual: Never saw this card, but this will definetly be a card i will look for now, as it could easily become a part of the deck. The sad thing is that once you have that many goblins, you don't really need that card. I think something like a Treasonous Ogre would be more useful as you can balance the mana you need more efficiently over multiple turns.
6 months ago
A Brightstone Ritual and a Fireball together would work well if you're late game and need a quick escape from a creature or you have enough to kill your opponent. But you could use your mana to hit different targets.
6 months ago
Also there are a lot of sorcerys that generate goblins like: Krenko's Command - Dragon Fodder - Empty the Warrens - Mogg Alarm - Kuldotha Rebirth - Hordeling Outburst - Goblin Rally. Why not duplicate all the goblins with Mogg Infestation to deal a lot of damage with purphoros and explode on mana with Brightstone Ritual.